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Utah Trade Deadline Discussion

LoPo said:
True MDAV. If they are shopping Gordon because they might not want to pay him, then we could go after him now and clear off another contract they are trying to dump.

If we took contracts, Orlando would probably sell low. Having the ability to match would be huge.

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I don’t think they’ll sell that low. Will likely cost Hood plus pick(s).
 
Gordon is going to get between $22 and $27. Orlando knows adding that to Fournier and Biyombo cripples their next 3 years financially. That's $60 million to 3 guys who arent making them win at all right now.

If we took Biyombo, Fournier and Gordon, Orlando would get their fresh start. That's a whole lot of contracts though. Those 3 added to our nucleus makes us a contender soon, but can we afford that?

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Ellis269 said:
Jazz will be hard pressed to get value for their expirings AND clear enough cap space to sign him up to an offer sheet that the Magic won’t match. If the Jazz can work out a deal that involves taking on Fournier’s contract and doesn’t get stupid with draft picks. . . I’d go for it.

Mitchell, Fournier, Jingles, Gordon and Gobert would be a great core to start with and then tweak the pieces. Mitchell, Gordon and Gobert on the same team would lead to some exciting above the rim play.
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Jazz can easily clear enough if they move Hood for no money in return, sign Exum to a deal quickly and move of one of Thabo/Jerebko. Going after RFA is better because then you aren't giving up assets, taking back money, and you aren't obligated to sign him to a number that you're uncomfortable with.
 
hgb - I think you are on to something. I would go with:

Hood, Favors, JoeJ, Burks, Thabo and our 2nd
for
Fournier, Gordon, Biyombo and Afflalo
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybe8mpzl

Why for Orlando - they want a reset. Dumping Biyombo is worth a high 1st. Fournier is a massive deal. They don't want to pay both of them and Gordon. They could easily flip Hood for a first if they want. So essentially, we are sending them the value of 2 1sts and shed so much money.

Why for us: 5 expendable guys for 3 guys who would contribute. Afflalo is just an expiring. Fournier and Gordon could be key. We added nonguaranteed contracts like Jerekbo and Udoh for a circumstance like this. We go into the luxury for 2018/19 then Rubio expires then Biyombo expires.

2018 salaries:
Gobert $23
Rubio $14.5
Ingles $13
Mitchell $3.1
Bradley $1.7
O'Neale $1.4
Exum $10 (let's just say it's what he gets)
Fournier $17
Biyombo $17
Gordon $25
Our 1st $2.5
TOTAL - $137 - yeah, we probably don't do that.

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hgb said:
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9dfqbnm
Hood+Rubio+Favors+Johnson for Biyombo, Fournier and Gordon works salary-wise, but that doesn't sound like something I would do if I were the Magic...
Looking at what's left of their team, that's not a whole lotta fun. Vucevic is good, Ross is okay, I guess, there's Payton and Isaac, but...
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I’d take Fournier, but not Biyambo. I actually really like the guy, but that contract is an albatross. Only way I’m taking that on is there’s no draft picks going to them. Even then, I’m thinking long and hard about keeping Hood and Rubio out of the deal and figuring out what to do with them later.
 
Hood, Rubio, Burks, Favors, Thabo, our 2nd and a future 2nd
for
Gordon, Biyombo, Fournier, Speights and Afflalo

Based off my numbers in my post before, we would have about $122 million for 10 players. If Gordon gets less than $25, we might be at the luxury after a few minimum contract guys.

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Soon we’ll have to change the title of the thread from “Utah trade deadline discussion” to “Utah Joe Johnson buyout discussion.”
 
Not taking Bismack in a deal sorry.

Evan’s contract is likely considered even or slightly negative.

AB or Ricky, Hood (maybe to a third team for a pick), and our pick (top 10 protected) plus expiring salary. That’s a fair deal... I’m not even sure I want to do that deal. If the don’t like it then we are on to the next one.

We might be able to give them our 2019 pick with light protections... would like to keep our 2018 pick if possible.

I doubt they would do it but that’s what I’d send.
 
I understand where you are coming from HH. If we did just go after Fournier and Gordon, I think the offer would have to be expirings, Hood and a pick. Then our finances are screwed for next year since we still have AB and Rubio.

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I have a hard time thinking they dump AG and EF for RH, an expiring, and a pick.
 
LoPo said:
I understand where you are coming from HH. If we did just go after Fournier and Gordon, I think the offer would have to be expirings, Hood and a pick. Then our finances are screwed for next year since we still have AB and Rubio.

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Not if AB is in the deal. This helps them get space next year not this offseason.
 
infection said:
I have a hard time thinking they dump AG and EF for RH, an expiring, and a pick.
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Probably right but if they think the Gordon contract will be bad then that might be as good as they get.

I would think hood would be sent to a third team. So it’d be two FRP, AB and expirings.

They are leading the parade to nowhere right now. They don’t have much to build on... tear it down to studs.

I do think Orlando might be able to get the Brooklyn pick for Gordon and I’d go that route if I was them.
 
I’m not completely sold on Gordon or EF. I think I’d rather move Hood for a pick and see what Royce and Jonas do for us as small ball stretch 4s
 
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