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I don’t give a **** enough about this to spend $100.

When I did it, they gave me all kinds of health information. But the FDA has since cracked down on that, so it's now limited to mostly ancestry.
 
Practically all of my European is Mediterranean (half of it Italian), with only 0.3% North European. It probably happened back before the Levant was Arabized.

I'm confused about yours. Britain includes Scotland. Are you 73% English? Can they tell the difference between the English and other Germanic people? If so, then that's some amazing resolution on the test. I don't think they have that kind of detailed information for my region.
I got the results back just about a week ago and haven't had a lot of time to dig into it yet. Mine was through Ancestry.com. It would be interesting to learn whether the results are the same through different companies, but I'm not going to pay to find out. I always knew I had quite a bit of English ancestry, but it surprised me to learn it was that much, especially when you add in the Ireland/Scotland/Wales stuff, which I imagine is pretty closely related. And yeah, it definitely surprised me that they could split that stuff out.
 
Race is not a real biological thing. What is and isn't white is a matter of public perception. Mexico is not seen as white, and thus is not white (except for those of 'pure' European ancestry, and that's a tiny percentage of Mexicans).

And I'm not kidding. Are you jealous? You want the position? You make the occasional pinko post, but Dalamon has a history of rigorous defense of the modern progressive movement.

I ain't got no time for modern progressives, bunch of pointless, deluded, hypocrites. The left has been an embarrassment for the last 20 years.
 
And yes, 90% of all cultural appropriation outcries are usually dumb, including this one.
This.

Do any of you have any idea how much of my culture...fat white man suburban culture...has been appropriated around the world. Seriously, I'm offended.
 
lmao right? i'm not even surprised tho when you have still have teams like the Washington Redskins and the Cleveland Indians existing.

A lot of natives disagree with you. "Redskin" was quite possibly originated by natives to distinguish themselves from AA and whites. Washington Redskins were named in honor of a Native football coach.

The term has become disparaging so it probably should go away, but Indians and Braves have no negative connotations only positives.
 
A lot of natives disagree with you. "Redskin" was quite possibly originated by natives to distinguish themselves from AA and whites. Washington Redskins were named in honor of a Native football coach.

The term has become disparaging so it probably should go away, but Indians and Braves have no negative connotations only positives.

I think in Canada the word Indian is frowned upon a lot more than in the US. All the Natives i know in the US call themselves Indians. I've met some who dislike the term Native American as they see anyone born on US soil as "native".
 
This.

Do any of you have any idea how much of my culture...fat white man suburban culture...has been appropriated around the world. Seriously, I'm offended.

You forgot ignorant, fat, useless white people love being ignorant.

I think in Canada the word Indian is frowned upon a lot more than in the US. All the Natives i know in the US call themselves Indians. I've met some who dislike the term Native American as they see anyone born on US soil as "native".

I didn't realise Asians were from North America, man i really love a curry.
 
I think in Canada the word Indian is frowned upon a lot more than in the US. All the Natives i know in the US call themselves Indians. I've met some who dislike the term Native American as they see anyone born on US soil as "native".
I also know many "native americans". They almost exclusively refer to themselves as indian, or by their tribe. But that is most that I have associated with. As with most groups, there will always be someone who will take offense, but I have not heard much of that in the . I don't think our goal should be to change everything to avoid any and all perceived slights, but we should take that into account our decision-making process.
 
You forgot ignorant, fat, useless white people love being ignorant.



I didn't realise Asians were from North America, man i really love a curry.

I know you're being sarcastic, but the Natives did come from Asia!
 
I know you're being sarcastic, but the Natives did come from Asia!
That's been in dispute again. I remember reading some stuff that was definitely Eurocentric idiocy, but I believe there has been some evidence backed suggestions of at least some prehistoric emigration from European areas to the American continents.
 
That's been in dispute again. I remember reading some stuff that was definitely Eurocentric idiocy, but I believe there has been some evidence backed suggestions of at least some prehistoric emigration from European areas to the American continents.

But the Natives look a lot like East Asians. Is there any dispute over the Asians crossing the Bering Strait? I know it is possible Europeans arrived from the East as well, but i don't think the ice age Bering crossing is in dispute?
 
But the Natives look a lot like East Asians. Is there any dispute over the Asians crossing the Bering Strait? I know it is possible Europeans arrived from the East as well, but i don't think the ice age Bering crossing is in dispute?
I never looked too closely at it, but they're finding decidedly European style artifacts as far south as South America. There's never been a dispute as to emigrants from the Bering Strait. There's now discussion on whether those individuals were the first humans to touch what is now American soil.

EDIT: And phenotype is hard to use. If I remember right, Aborigines are more "caucasoid" then "negroid" in skull structure. I don't remember reading much about any genetic testing if anything testable has been found.
 
Never met a single Indigenous Canadian who refers to themselves as “Indian”— and my city has the 2nd highest Métis population in Canada (along with lots of First Nations ppl)
 
But the Natives look a lot like East Asians. Is there any dispute over the Asians crossing the Bering Strait? I know it is possible Europeans arrived from the East as well, but i don't think the ice age Bering crossing is in dispute?

The most popular models describing the peopling of the Americas, presently, tie several strands together.

One, the so-called Beringian Standstill hypothesis posits that the ancestors of present day Native Americans did not race across a Bering land bridge roughly 15,000 years ago, but instead lived for many thousands of years, during the Last Glacial Maximun, in Beringia, the Australian sized land mass that spanned Siberia and western Alaska, before migrating south into the rest of the Americas. Here is an excellent synopsis of the Beringian Standstill theory:

https://www.hakaimagazine.com/features/sunken-bridge-size-continent/

Two, when movement south did occur, it was not through an ice free corridor, but rather by boat. This notion has been around for awhile, and has assumed ascendency as the most popular model describing how the Americas were settled. It's the Pacific Kelp Highway hypothesis:

http://natural-history.uoregon.edu/research/paleocoastal-research-project/kelp-highway-hypothesis

Three, the genetic studies of early human remains in the Americas is definetly supporting an Asian origin:

Alaska:

https://www.newscientist.com/articl...m-alaska-reveals-origins-of-native-americans/

Montana:

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/02/native-americans-descend-ancient-montana-boy

Mexico:

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/sci...-000-year-old-girls-dna-reveals-first-n105841

The Solutrean Hypothesis, made popular in recent years by Michael Bradley and Dennis Stanford posits that there is evidence that Clovis technology, and the Clovis projectile point, a distinctive continent wide style of fluted projectile point once believed to be the earliest style of projectile used in the Americas, is related to Solutrean technology of Late Paleolithic cultures in Spain and France. The so-called Cinmar blade, named for the scallop dredging vessel that brought it up from Chesapeake Bay, along with mammoth remains, is said by Stanford and Bradley to be an actual Solutrean bipointed blade. They hypothesize an Atlantic crossing in excess of 20,000 years ago, with settlement by Solutrean peoples in the Delmarva Peninsula. It is true that Clovis points are much more abundant in the eastern United States. At any rate, Clovis itself was a uniquely American invention. The Solutrean Hypothesis is very much a minority view at this point. Even the provenance of the Cinmar blade has come into question in recent years. But the theory is not dead. Still, the genetics favors an obvious Asian origin for Native Americans, although Western Eurasian Paleolithic hunters did mix with Siberians prior to settlement in ancient Beringia.

Some of the oldest dates in the Americas are indeed coming from South America, especially Brazil, but I know of no connection between sites there and Western European Paleolithic sites. One thing is certain. Since the fall of the "Clovis is the earliest American presence" dogma, the peopling of the Americas has become wide open, and is the most exciting frontier in American archaeology.
 
No, they are not seen nor treated as white. 100 years ago, the Irish and Italians weren't white, either.
I seem to recall you arguing quite specifically about George Zimmerman being white.
 
I seem to recall you arguing quite specifically about George Zimmerman being white.

He struck me as having the skin coloration and features that, today, get interpreted as being white. However, I have not met him in person. Perhaps I have not seen the correct pictures.
 
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