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So we're finished, and the lawn still hasn't been mowed, my wife says. Obviously, I'm an addict and need help.

Looking through the threads in here, I think quite a few of us need help, too.

Anyone who can't resist popping in on a thread which is supposed to be a showcase of political correctness, just to mess all over on it, might need serious help.

So a while ago I was following the Lyndon LaRouche culties who are really sorta directly disrespectful of the Brit royals and the City of London, ya know, the Rhodes Club more or less. Actually pretty sure it's gotta be on the less side, because times change, and Rhodes is dead. The LaRouche folks are pretty stoked on the Silk Road and all kinds of technology, infrastructure projects like canals and roads and MagLev trains, and space ports, so it sometimes makes for some different reading..... But you have to follow the party line a bit too close for comfort.

President Xi of China and President Putin of Russia read their lit, too. Modern Renaissance Socialism at it's best, with its own unique set of intellectual leaders.

I also follow Mormon stuff a lot, and see how leadership works in that authoritarian setting, with offset smiles and fairly gushing "Brotherisms" of inclusion that carry a whole raft of cultural/social values and constructs. A lot more developed than say, the Law of Moses.

And then there are the US political parties, and little advocacy operations like Soros runs, and maybe Levin and Jones and the Breitbart set.

Well, I have issues with all these folks, and with JFC management as well, so obviously I am OCD on one-ups-man-ship.

I hear Xi has bought Hollywood outright, or something akin to that, and has weighed in on our social media giants as well, with a campaign like the Islamists/Democrats have had going on about Islamophobia and infidels in general, which made it essential media policy to avoid any negative value ideas or facts about Islam. And now the Chinese.

There is a crackdown going on in China, after some loosening on the subject in recent decades, on Christians. The Catholics need to let Xi pick their Chinese Archbishop, and a sort of "correlation committee" that will go through all their literature to make sure it is appropriate and avoids all negativity. Religion needs to be guided, of course.

At any rate, I define a cult as any specific set of beliefs or presumptions sanctioned by a leader or leadership clique empowered to discipline, remove, or discredit noncompliants loitering about the premises.

As such, JFC is a fully qualified cult, imo, with a sort of mod squad "correlation committee".

I have looked into the Utah Jazz ownership and management, and I have concluded that this site has their full endorsement and politically-correct stamp of approval. I can't turn to the BYU cougars because of similar trends imposed by that management.

Do you folks know that the Chinese have been sending their elite children to US universities to study Americans, like Un was here to study Americans as well. A disproportionate number of Chinese elite kids were sent to BYU.

Yep, the LDS Correlation Committee/Strengthening Membership Committees have gone viral, politically speaking. It's a Brave New World, where we all need to keep our real opinions to ourselves. Before we know it, all advanced nations will have a one-party system that sends "home teachers" out to see how folks are doing....

I think if any of you want help to fit in with the trend, there's plenty of resources and smiling helpers immediately available, where ever you are. Just squeak "I don't understand", and ten mods will come to your side within a blink of the eye.

Anyway, I've been toying with the idea of resurrecting Archie's site, or possibly doing a one-man comedy there. But maybe we can still have fun here.

If any of you feel sucked into this group more than you really feel comfortable about, I'm here to help..... well, until I'm booted out.....
 
Obviously. But did you understand it as a "harrumph" or a "barf"?

Harrumphers are the elites in cults, barfers are the misfits and malcontents.

zzzzzyxers are 99% of every cult.

Being able to read elevates you to the 75th percentile in the entire set, being willing to mock malcontents is 90% on the lower side of the bell curve. Being able to talk politely and persuasively with malcontents could land you a cushy guv job with perks for getting your most annoysome relatives sent to camp.
 
At any rate, I define a cult as any specific set of beliefs or presumptions sanctioned by a leader or leadership clique empowered to discipline, remove, or discredit noncompliants loitering about the premises.

As such, JFC is a fully qualified cult, imo, with a sort of mod squad "correlation committee".

What's the common set of beliefs or presumptions?
 
So we're finished, and the lawn still hasn't been mowed, my wife says. Obviously, I'm an addict and need help.

Looking through the threads in here, I think quite a few of us need help, too.

Anyone who can't resist popping in on a thread which is supposed to be a showcase of political correctness, just to mess all over on it, might need serious help.

So a while ago I was following the Lyndon LaRouche culties who are really sorta directly disrespectful of the Brit royals and the City of London, ya know, the Rhodes Club more or less. Actually pretty sure it's gotta be on the less side, because times change, and Rhodes is dead. The LaRouche folks are pretty stoked on the Silk Road and all kinds of technology, infrastructure projects like canals and roads and MagLev trains, and space ports, so it sometimes makes for some different reading..... But you have to follow the party line a bit too close for comfort.

President Xi of China and President Putin of Russia read their lit, too. Modern Renaissance Socialism at it's best, with its own unique set of intellectual leaders.

I also follow Mormon stuff a lot, and see how leadership works in that authoritarian setting, with offset smiles and fairly gushing "Brotherisms" of inclusion that carry a whole raft of cultural/social values and constructs. A lot more developed than say, the Law of Moses.

And then there are the US political parties, and little advocacy operations like Soros runs, and maybe Levin and Jones and the Breitbart set.

Well, I have issues with all these folks, and with JFC management as well, so obviously I am OCD on one-ups-man-ship.

I hear Xi has bought Hollywood outright, or something akin to that, and has weighed in on our social media giants as well, with a campaign like the Islamists/Democrats have had going on about Islamophobia and infidels in general, which made it essential media policy to avoid any negative value ideas or facts about Islam. And now the Chinese.

There is a crackdown going on in China, after some loosening on the subject in recent decades, on Christians. The Catholics need to let Xi pick their Chinese Archbishop, and a sort of "correlation committee" that will go through all their literature to make sure it is appropriate and avoids all negativity. Religion needs to be guided, of course.

At any rate, I define a cult as any specific set of beliefs or presumptions sanctioned by a leader or leadership clique empowered to discipline, remove, or discredit noncompliants loitering about the premises.

As such, JFC is a fully qualified cult, imo, with a sort of mod squad "correlation committee".

I have looked into the Utah Jazz ownership and management, and I have concluded that this site has their full endorsement and politically-correct stamp of approval. I can't turn to the BYU cougars because of similar trends imposed by that management.

Do you folks know that the Chinese have been sending their elite children to US universities to study Americans, like Un was here to study Americans as well. A disproportionate number of Chinese elite kids were sent to BYU.

Yep, the LDS Correlation Committee/Strengthening Membership Committees have gone viral, politically speaking. It's a Brave New World, where we all need to keep our real opinions to ourselves. Before we know it, all advanced nations will have a one-party system that sends "home teachers" out to see how folks are doing....

I think if any of you want help to fit in with the trend, there's plenty of resources and smiling helpers immediately available, where ever you are. Just squeak "I don't understand", and ten mods will come to your side within a blink of the eye.

Anyway, I've been toying with the idea of resurrecting Archie's site, or possibly doing a one-man comedy there. But maybe we can still have fun here.

If any of you feel sucked into this group more than you really feel comfortable about, I'm here to help..... well, until I'm booted out.....

Dangerous stuff babe. The mods are just itching for a reason to ban you and your rebellious/independent-thinking ways. Don't push your luck.
 
Dangerous stuff babe. The mods are just itching for a reason to ban you and your rebellious/independent-thinking ways. Don't push your luck.

nah.

Our mods are actually pretty smart.

Smart enough to laugh and let live.

But yah, this could be edgy. I figure as long as I'm a useful fool/foil against which the establishment can make a reasonable case, I can do this jig.

But China's Xi isn't that smart, I have to admit. Well, maybe he's even smarter than that, and just knows he can run the tables.

But seriously. Don't we need a place to do our pity parties in here?
 
What's the common set of beliefs or presumptions?

As per usual in our times, these items change daily. It's whatever the notion du jour happens to be, whatever is a useful talking point for whatever reason. And how do the faithful know what to think at any given moment? roll with what blows.
Life doesn't need to be any more complicated than that.

Trendsetters of the first rank might include Colton. Jason seems to be willing to be the unseen power behind the wind, but at least he doesn't get out to howl at the moon about it. I'd think Kicky and Rev are probably the organizational team who lead from behind as well. I don't think anyone can manage Thriller, and I don't think you'd listen if anyone did try to give you some pointers.

Overall, I would think Jonah would be the perfect JFC cultie without anyone trying to tell him what's what. He just believes in normal, and that's by far the most influential element in every cult.

Would it surprise you to learn that Jason is Mitt?????

ah, but overall, I should give you fair credit. No one persists on the JFC cult themes half as long as you do.
 
Is this really a serious take on a place that essentially specializes in dick and fart jokes?
 
I'm so anti-establishment that I murdered my parents, all my siblings and their children, and my entire family that went along just to get along. Now I'm left with me, myself, and I, and a poker game or two a year. **** THE MAN! Especially the poker game man! Who is he to think he can create a cult of rules that I have to follow? I play poker how I want to play poker. Screw the rules!!!11111111!1!1 I'm independent thinker!
 
Is this really a serious take on a place that essentially specializes in dick and fart jokes?

duh.

And if I pretended it as the bedrock truth of our times, I'd be a falling star as a poster. My little nuclear point would be a flash in the pan of JFC reality. Here today, gone tomorrow. Bullet and Red would be doing high fives, dancing in the streets, no doubt.

The d&f jokes, are..... of course...... best understood as nonsense codons in the JFC DNA. Not to say that they don't essentially capture the real value of the JFC cult, because they really do. And not to say that the fundamental, universal meaning of reality is not the parts of it we just don't, can't, and never will understand. That is the joke the universe apparently intends to play on all aspiring intelligence that would ever dream of understanding, or that would ever embrace the delusion of conviction about it's own goodness or reason.
 
I'm so anti-establishment that I murdered my parents, all my siblings and their children, and my entire family that went along just to get along. Now I'm left with me, myself, and I, and a poker game or two a year. **** THE MAN! Especially the poker game man! Who is he to think he can create a cult of rules that I have to follow? I play poker how I want to play poker. Screw the rules!!!11111111!1!1 I'm independent thinker!

yes, you like to pretend to be a bad boy. A really bad boy. I have a brother just like you.

In every family, 4 out of five children will become "fishers of fudge", but only one will actually intend to destroy the toilet. Let alone use that concept as a handle in social media.

Such is the life of the everyday housewife, with kids, who chooses to avoid the immediate implications of life, and chooses to read romance novels instead. I know a few of these, and one who goes one step further, and writes the damn romance novels.

But you are about as far removed from being a JFC cultie as you could get. I give you an A+ and graduate you from my program as this year's valedicktorian. And that's not a spelling error. I'm sure I'll have to override the spell check program to make the point.
 
What's the common set of beliefs or presumptions?

So I've been doing some serious thinking about your question. I think I captured the essence of it in one of my responses above.... the one about some people's delusions of understanding fundamental truth.

This, I think, really does fully explain you, and a lot of other folks. And, I'm afraid, even me.

We are, as a species, the moths who flutter around the light bulb of Universal Truth. But it's too hot for us. If we get too close, we fry.

And that is why we must never let the "progressives" get their damn fists closed on the nuclear button of our world government. They will destroy the toilet. They will make human life extinct, in spirit if not in fact.
 
So I've been doing some serious thinking about your question. I think I captured the essence of it in one of my responses above.... the one about some people's delusions of understanding fundamental truth.

I would agree that, outside of some very basic stuff like "other people exist", there are very few fundamental truths. I fully admit that I have a set of principles that I argue for (with varying degrees of vigor and tenacity), but I try to recognize that my values are not fundamental truths, but choices I make based upon my interpretation of the world.
 
So I've been doing some serious thinking about your question. I think I captured the essence of it in one of my responses above.... the one about some people's delusions of understanding fundamental truth.


We are, as a species, the moths who flutter around the light bulb of Universal Truth. But it's too hot for us. If we get too close, we fry.

And that is why we must never let the "progressives" get their damn fists closed on the nuclear button of our world government. They will destroy the toilet. They will make human life extinct, in spirit if not in fact.


Good points, but I'm not sure this applies to the vast majority. This, I think, really does fully explain OB but not you and most other folk. And, I'm afraid, maybe even me to some extent.

My opinion is that a large driver of happiness is derived from some sort of cult mentality - religion, region, family tradition, and way of life. I'm a Westerner so it's clearly noticeable in my demeanor on certain topics such as overly burdensome gun control. My immediate instinct is to resort to some form of "You can kiss my country ***", even though I realize there is a place for regulation, risks, that guns arent saving anybody from internal government abuse, etc.

However, I found that leaving the cultish lifestyle for independent thinking to be a hollow. Belief in "this is the way it should be" or "this is the way it is" is a driver for people to strive for, and humanity needs that for the most part, IMO. Animal instinct drives this same behavior for survival, so if you want to look at it from a science/evolutionary perspective you'll see a possible relic.

As far as cult goes here, Jazzfanz GD and America has sliwly been losing touch with this is how life is. I hypothesize that the widespread loss of religion leads people to search for a new cause to fight for to fill that void of meaning to life.
 
It's still a huge undertaking to create universal-scale library of values/facts/principles/whatevers of preferred cognitive setpoints that will make the world "good" or "better".

The utopian visions of mankind, created in the midst of what some philosophers might rightly characterize as a "toilet" filled with human refuse, are indeed staggering. Christians with visions of a truly righteous King or almighty God who holds the key to all that could be praised.... Islamists with a vision of a God who simply demands compliance and is willing to destroy all infidels, or reward those who will do it for him.....Corporatists with visions of world order fancifully considered "new".... or nationalists like Russia's Gogol with ideals of local order considered exemplary..... scientists with dreams of a universal theory of everything....

But go ahead. Give it a whirl.

A man's reach should exceed his grasp.

I just think we should realize the danger of having anything our own way.....
 
As far as cult goes here, Jazzfanz GD and America has sliwly been losing touch with this is how life is. I hypothesize that the widespread loss of religion leads people to search for a new cause to fight for to fill that void of meaning to life.

Among those wired to fight for causes, anyhow.
 
Among those wired to fight for causes, anyhow.

That's exactly the problem many have with progressives. We've gotten to the point where we progress for progress sake in exchange of the old mantra if it isn't broke don't fix it. Engineers have been doing this for a while now with computer systems. They're wired to make things better and get bored, so they change programs that function perfectly fine and invent new ones.

Warren Buffet calls this type of stuff "Institutional Dynamics", with an explanation that once you have an institution it will always and forever try to expand regardless of need or want.

That's what many have an issue with without realizing exactly why: when do we simply decide it's good enough? Never. Those who are wired to fight for causes, as you put it, seem to tend to not stop regardless of how irrational they come across. There will always be another cause found to fill their void. There intentions are good, but the road to hell is paved on gold (and filled with Idaho drivers).
 
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