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Jazz Free Agency Summer of 2018

I could live with Bender, but I wouldn’t want to count on him. I wouldn’t pay good assets to get him.

Unrealistic hope is PG13. Strike now while most teams are hurting. I’m not bullish on the 2019 free agent class at all.

Outside of adding Paul George, I still think the best options are keeping Derrick Favors and Dante Exum, then trading for DeMarre Carroll and signing Mario Hezonja for part of the MLE.

Gobert, Favors, Crowder, Hezonja, Carroll, Jingles, O’Neale, Mitchell, Exum and Rubio would make for great core that has depth through the season and in the playoffs (depending on health.)
 
Ellis269 said:
I’m not bullish on the 2019 free agent class at all.
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I agree with this 100%. I think the 2019 cap space thing is overrated. If it were me, I would take a massive asset from some team looking to dump a contract that goes through 2019/20. See how much Memphis would give us if we took Parsons.

We have the entire roster signed through 2019/20 minus Exum and Favors (Bird Rights) and Rubio (Early Bird Rights in 2019). We won't go into the luxury this year adding a bad like Parsons because nobody is going to overspend on Favors or Exum. We might pay the luxury to keep Rubio in 2019/20, but that would be one season. We can afford that.

We aren't getting a superstar in 2019. I don't think PG is going to sign a one year deal in OKC then just up and decide to come to us next summer. So go get a draft pick that could be used to trade for a big name should they become disgruntled.
 
LoPo said:
I agree with this 100%. I think the 2019 cap space thing is overrated. If it were me, I would take a massive asset from some team looking to dump a contract that goes through 2019/20. See how much Memphis would give us if we took Parsons.

We have the entire roster signed through 2019/20 minus Exum and Favors (Bird Rights) and Rubio (Early Bird Rights in 2019). We won't go into the luxury this year adding a bad like Parsons because nobody is going to overspend on Favors or Exum. We might pay the luxury to keep Rubio in 2019/20, but that would be one season. We can afford that.

We aren't getting a superstar in 2019. I don't think PG is going to sign a one year deal in OKC then just up and decide to come to us next summer. So go get a draft pick that could be used to trade for a big name should they become disgruntled.
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To eat Parsons' deal, we'd have to renounce Favors, Exum, Neto, and the Ungs, wouldn't we?
 
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TheStormofWar said:
To eat Parsons' deal, we'd have to renounce Favors, Exum, Neto, and the Ungs, wouldn't we?
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Not really. If we renounced Favors ($18 million cap hold) and signed Exum during the Moratorium (let's say $8), we could trade Thabo ($5.5 expiring), Burks ($11.5 expiring) and maybe Jerekbo ($4.2 expiring) for Parsons ($24) and Jaren Jackson Jr ($4.5).

The numbers aren't exactly known at this point because we don't know the exact cap numbers. Until the cap numbers come out, we don't know how much Jaren Jackson's contract/hold would be. But if we renounce Favors and sign Exum early, we would have a few million of cap space. Since Parsons and Jackson combine for around $29, we would use a combination of space and expirings and future assets to work the deal.
 
LoPo said:
I agree with this 100%. I think the 2019 cap space thing is overrated. If it were me, I would take a massive asset from some team looking to dump a contract that goes through 2019/20. See how much Memphis would give us if we took Parsons.

We have the entire roster signed through 2019/20 minus Exum and Favors (Bird Rights) and Rubio (Early Bird Rights in 2019). We won't go into the luxury this year adding a bad like Parsons because nobody is going to overspend on Favors or Exum. We might pay the luxury to keep Rubio in 2019/20, but that would be one season. We can afford that.

We aren't getting a superstar in 2019. I don't think PG is going to sign a one year deal in OKC then just up and decide to come to us next summer. So go get a draft pick that could be used to trade for a big name should they become disgruntled.
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For the same reason you shouldn't be bullish in 2019 (WAY more money to go around), it's a losing game trying to beat Boston's asset collection. Seriously, look at everything they have if a true superstar were to come available. They could get Kawhi in a snap of a finger if he would commit to a deal. Davis unhappy? Boston's got him.

I'm not saying we shouldn't collect assets, but I personally think being a legit playoff squad with max cap space is our most valuable asset this Summer and next.

Salary dumps are great if we are rebuilding or on the fringe. Right now we need real tangible players that can contribute. Being a team of our caliber with space could allow us to not only get a max star player potentially, but also get some serious contributors for cheap (which by the way, are just as valuable as first round picks to many teams)
 
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MDAV28 said:
For the same reason you shouldn't be bullish in 2019 (WAY more money to go around), it's a losing game trying to beat Boston's asset collection. Seriously, look at everything they have if a true superstar were to come available. They could get Kawhi in a snap of a finger if he would commit to a deal. Davis unhappy? Boston's got him.

I'm not saying we shouldn't collect assets, but I personally think being a legit playoff squad with max cap space is our most valuable asset this Summer and next.

Salary dumps are great if we are rebuilding or on the fringe. Right now we need real tangible players that can contribute. Being a team of our caliber with space could allow us to not only get a max star player potentially, but also get some serious contributors for cheap (which by the way, are just as valuable as first round picks to many teams)
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I understand where you are coming from, but I would rather have the asset in my pocket than the asset I hope to have. Cap space this summer only has value to us if we are absorbing a salary.

As for 2019, what is the target? http://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/2019/rfa/ There aren't 5 names on this list who are worth a big contract AND make sense for us AND would even consider us.

Also consider that most of the NBA teams will have big space in 2019, I simply refuse to believe that 2019 space for us is all that valuable.
 
LoPo said:
Start Crowder (34% 3pt shooter at 6'6" 235)
Play Ingles some (42% 3pt shooter at 6'8" 226)
Keep Jerekbo (36% 3pt shooter at 6'10" 231)
Play O'Neale some (36% 3pt shooter at 6'6" 226)
Play Niang some (TBD 3pt shooter at 6'6" 231)
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How can you say we are overreacting and not to panic and then list these as our options?

We’re trying to compete for a championship. This is not good enough.
 
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Jingled said:
If you would have actually read what I wrote you would have noticed I said in crunch time, like the last few minutes of a game. How many games did we finish with Gobert and Favors on the floor together the last two seasons? Very, very few. Last season Joe Johnson pretty much always finished games at the 4 and after the trade deadline this season it was Crowder closing out games at the 4. Quin rarely has Favors in the lineup to close out games.
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That's clearly a rotation decision by QS. He alternates them a lot in the 4th to guarantee fresh legs. Besides, QS's jigsaw puzzle subbing in the 4th is outcoachong the other teams a lot and forcing them to play how Utah wants to. Plus plus, Favors' minutes don't have the ceiling Gobert's do. He needs more rest.

And finally, plus plus plus, go look at who kicked the shot out of OKC closing out games together, games that matter the most - Sir Rudy and Derrick.
 
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