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2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

infection said:
Niko, though not starting or playing in crunch because of the tank, was viewed positively and on an upward trend. Jabari has gone from being a #2 pick that his team gave up on, to getting one offer with a tanking team, to getting benched, to being totally out of the rotation, plus some attitude issues. Niko would have hit the summer market with value, so he wanted to push to going somewhere that would be a good fit. Completely different.
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I think Jabari's value is diminished enough that we could/should get a pick back in a Jabari/Favors trade if that were to happen.
 
Anytime there is a NBA player who is also a Mormon you have to give them real serious consideration due to Cultural fit. Those Jazz fans that live overseas are just Not going to understand.
 
Poor Washington. This move only fixed a small chemistry issue and offered some salary relief. It didn't fix their main issues. They gotta a lot of work to do or will be waiting for the Wall or Beal contracts to expire.

I don't know the rules, can Washington move Ariza again this season?
 
Ariza is a more reliable player and may be better at defending 4s. Given their salary situation, they weren't going to be able to pay Oubre.
 
stitches said:
Mirotic and Jabari's contracts are the same(just different numbers) - they are 1 year contracts + 1 year team option. Favors' contract is different. It's 2 years contract with the second year non-guaranteed. The reason Jabari(and Mirotic last year) have the right to veto is because players have the right to veto trades during a 1 year contract. Favors cannot do that because technically his contract is 2 years, not 1... just the second year is not guaranteed(another stroke of genius from DL).
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I know that part I don’t think they are viewed differently by the cba. I think it’s a one year deal for bird right purposes because it’s only guaranteed one year. I think I read it somewhere too... I could be wrong but I think they are viewed the same.
 
Catchall said:
Ariza is a more reliable player and may be better at defending 4s. Given their salary situation, they weren't going to be able to pay Oubre.
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Yeah but they got no future value... I would have thought they could snake a late first from someone or a couple seconds... maybe a second chance guy on a rookie deal.
 
NPC D4617 said:
What a stupid ****ing stat. Its semi accurate for like the top10 players on good teams. Then strays off with a bunch of anomalies that cant be explained while trying to stay consistent in your belief that its definitive proof of how good of a basketball player you are.

But yet, you will still throw it out there as if it actually means something.

Lets name a few people listed with a higher RPM than Gobert

Paskal Sakiam ( who has a higher RPM than Kawhi)
Robert Covington(Who also has a higher RMP than Kawhi)
Danilio Gallinari(Who also has a higher RPM than Kawhi
Eric Bledsoe(yep, higher than Kawhi.)
Joe Ingles
Nikola Vucevic
And a few others.

So yep, all those players rated higher than Gobert and Kawhi.

Why stop there

Nemanja Bjelica
Boban Marjanovic
Jusuf Nurkic

All 3 higher than Kawhi.

Lets point out some more stupid ****.

Noah Vonleh, Dwight Powell, Kelly Olynyk higher than Victor Oladipo. All 3 in the top 40 of the NBA.

Bradley Beal and John Wall way doen the list at 110 and 111, with a bunch of trash in front of them.

Clint Capela at 284.

Klay Thompson at 316. Yep, that dude is trash. Wouldnt touch him with a 10 foot pole.
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Wow you wasted a lot of time and bandwidth. I wouldn't have posted Jabari's RPM rating this year unless he sucked at it EVERY YEAR. Which he has. Maybe not league worst, but bottom 30 year after year.Hundreds of games....

I don't give a rats *** about 30 game sample size anomalies you posted there. If you think the stat is somehow singling out Jabari or doesn't recognize his value, let us know what stat you want to use to justify his worth. Good luck!
 
In my opinion, Ariza is Washington's last ditch chance to save this team. They wanted to add a seasoned vet to replace young Oubre. If Washington doesn't sort it out by the trade deadline, I think that is when they have their firesale. They would trade anything and everything. They have close to two months to right the ship or they trade everybody including Ariza.
 
Knowledgeofmine said:
Anytime there is a NBA player who is also a Mormon you have to give them real serious consideration due to Cultural fit. Those Jazz fans that live overseas are just Not going to understand.
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Nah, That is a step back the way we came. The growth of the culture here is what we should be looking at.
 
Lakers are saving all the young guys for a deal for AD. AND they are holding out hope that Kawhi wants to join in the summer.
 
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I like the trade for Phoenix. Rivers was pretty good for the Clippers and plays tough. Oubre is solid - definitely underrated overall game and he will likely become their third highest scorer this season. This trade will help the Suns. They'll still be bad but they'll improve their .172 win percentage.
 
Jazz4ever said:
Wow you wasted a lot of time and bandwidth. I wouldn't have posted Jabari's RPM rating this year unless he sucked at it EVERY YEAR. Which he has. Maybe not league worst, but bottom 30 year after year.Hundreds of games....

I don't give a rats *** about 30 game sample size anomalies you posted there. If you think the stat is somehow singling out Jabari or doesn't recognize his value, let us know what stat you want to use to justify his worth. Good luck!
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Right.

So let me get this straight.

"You dont give a rats *** about a 30 game sample size". But when it comes to Jabari you chose to use it anyways. Then you try to justify it by referencing his ...what, rookie season? Or what, the years he tried to make his way back from ACL tears?

He is still 23 btw.
 
Okay, so follow along with me really quickly -

- So the Lakers are going to try to trade some or all 4 of their young core (Lonzo, Kuzma, Ingram and/or Hart) and picks for Anthony Davis.

- what if, just if, Kuzma refuses to go to New Orleans? What if he demanded to go to Utah if he leaves LA? Think he could force New Orleans' hand to where Kuzma goes to us as a 3rd team and we send New Orleans a **** ton of assets?
 
LoPo said:
Okay, so follow along with me really quickly -

- So the Lakers are going to try to trade some or all 4 of their young core (Lonzo, Kuzma, Ingram and/or Hart) and picks for Anthony Davis.

- what if, just if, Kuzma refuses to go to New Orleans? What if he demanded to go to Utah if he leaves LA? Think he could force New Orleans' hand to where Kuzma goes to us as a 3rd team and we send New Orleans a **** ton of assets?
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It could have an effect. And by effect, I mean the same kind of effect of saving money on your water bill when filling your pool by peeing in it.
 
LoPo said:
I know my idea is ridiculous, but if Kuzma says he won't go to NOLA and wants Utah, what is NOLA supposed to do?
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Tell him to pack his bags. I’m not sure they’d need to do anything besides trade him to NOLA.
 
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