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2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

Handlogten's Heros said:
Look the Lakers current offer is fine... but they can do more... offering 2 picks with the young guys... NO said hey we want 4... which I'm not sure is possible.

When the trade happens it is likely all the stuff plus 3 picks... it is worth waiting out the extra pick. LA is going to be more awkward in 3 days than NO is if a trade doesn't go through. What if Boston didn't get that one extra pick from Brooklyn that becomes Tatum, Brown, or gets traded for Kyrie.
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I agree. If both sides are smart, they finish the trade tonight with exactly what you are saying - 1 more draft pick. It needs to happen soon so New Orleans can shed some contracts prior to finalizing the deal.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
So if they say no today they can't accept in two days? Lakers will do more just wait... NO hasn't even countered and LA is bidding up the price on themselves.
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I'm not saying just today. I'm saying if New Orleans decides to wait until the summer, they are making a big mistake. You can't trust Ainge. If Irving were to back out and leave, it's very possible Ainge decides to keep his cards. If that were to happen, New Orleans would have to settle for a weaker offer from LA.
 
Jack Strop said:
I'll bet Ainge called NO and told them Tatum would be the centerpiece of their offer this summer.

As good as Kuzma is, he's not viewed as a possible star like Tatum. Plus Boston has draft assets that would be better than LA with Lebron and AD. Id love to see Boston trade for AD, have him stay one year and then leave. But Boston is smart. Getting AD likely means Irving re-signs.
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No chance Boston includes Tatum if AD is still saying he has no interest in Boston.
 
LoPo said:
I agree. If both sides are smart, they finish the trade tonight with exactly what you are saying - 1 more draft pick. It needs to happen soon so New Orleans can shed some contracts prior to finalizing the deal.
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If NO comes back and says everything you've offered plus one extra pick and flip Zubac for Wagner... Is LA saying no? they gonna let that stop them from getting AD?

NO and LA both no the absolute max offer and NO is okay waiting until this summer if need be. Boston/NY/LA will all have good offers still.
 
All the pressure is on LA... just like memphis and Conley... wait it out until you have to make a decision.
 
If NO did a deal fast it looks bad too... like LA flexed on them and they had to give in to the bully. I love what they are doing... LOVE. IT.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
If NO comes back and says everything you've offered plus one extra pick and flip Zubac for Wagner... Is LA saying no? they gonna let that stop them from getting AD?

NO and LA both no the absolute max offer and NO is okay waiting until this summer if need be. Boston/NY/LA will all have good offers still.
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Zubac>>Wagner though

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Saint Cy of JFC said:
He did not.

He had a national writer who use to live by Memphis who knows some people who work for the Grizzlies.
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Thanks for the clarification on who he was.

Also, I know it’s hard for you to not be an *** but you should try it.
 
the last trade similar to Conley was the Dragic deal... cost two firsts... for a 27-28 year old Dragic.

A first for Conley is fair... they need to get over it... if that is indeed the hangup.
 
If we get Conley, what's everyone's odds on us making another deal? I feel like moving for Conley requires us to make another move.
 
infection said:
NO should also make Nicholson do some Pelicans promo ads, just to be dicks.
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Or tell them they are ready to deal but they need to meet you at Starbucks in NO to do the deal... then no show and say they are at the other starbucks... and continue for a few hours... have secret cameras film the frustration.

Or request facetime and they have to use like fairy or dog filters the whole time during the meeting.
 
I'm guessing Toronto called Memphis about doing a Conley/Lowry swap and Memphis tried to add a bunch of stuff to it. Maybe Toronto was offering a 2nd rounder for the swap.
 
infection said:
If we get Conley, what's everyone's odds on us making another deal? I feel like moving for Conley requires us to make another move.
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If Favs is in the deal I'd say high (unless we also got Green). If Favs isn't in the deal I say very low.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I'm guessing Toronto called Memphis about doing a Conley/Lowry swap and Memphis tried to add a bunch of stuff to it. Maybe Toronto was offering a 2nd rounder for the swap.
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Tony said Kyle is unhappy in Toronto... so this is likely what happened. If Memphis could get Gasol/JV flip and move Lowry for a first it still makes some sense... straight up though... nah.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I'm guessing Toronto called Memphis about doing a Conley/Lowry swap and Memphis tried to add a bunch of stuff to it. Maybe Toronto was offering a 2nd rounder for the swap.
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There was a report on another site that Memphis made the proposal. My guess is they're trying like crazy to trade Gasol and haven't found any buyers given his salary.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
So Memphis leaked a trade they tried to initiate to drive up their players value?

Seems like no one wants Conley that much besides Utah and Detroit.
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2018/19 30M
2019/20 32M
2020/21 34M

Conley is good and better than Rubio but his salary is 10th in the entire league this season, 9th next season, and 8th the following (pending new contracts). He gets paid more than KD, Lillard, Embiid or AD. Also, he's 31 and the last 3 seasons before this one he played 56, 69, and 12 games. Add the fact that Memphis wants picks and expirings, and that's not as sweet of a deal as many think.
 
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