Archie Moses
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To be fair, if people don't lock their cars and or leave valuables in them and someone breaks into and steals them, then I victim blame the **** out of the victim (I also, obviously, blame the theif.)
Amber Guyger Trial Starts...
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Miggs
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Yep. My wife’s Acura MDX was stolen right out of our driveway overnight at about 3:45am one year ago. My brilliant other half left it unlocked with the keys in it. The gang from Newark who stole it also stole three other vehicles in our part of town that night. All had ingeniously left the vehicles unlocked.
True.
If someone leaves their car unlocked while sitting in it and is shot and killed, according to OL, the victim did something wrong.
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Defense's turn.. and it was smart of them to be on the front foot and put Amber on the stand first up.
Not gonna lie.. seeing her talk on the stand has soften my heart a little bit even though I know what she had done.
Not gonna lie.. seeing her talk on the stand has soften my heart a little bit even though I know what she had done.
A potential turning point in the trial, Amber takes the stand and as she was asked by the lawyer to get up and re-enact her entering the apartment, she suddenly had an emotional breakdown, sobbing, trembling,.. a real genuine moment of remorse and misery...
Judge had to allow a 10 min. break for her to calm down.
Right now I'm betting manslaughter's the maximum jury's willing to give.
Judge had to allow a 10 min. break for her to calm down.
Right now I'm betting manslaughter's the maximum jury's willing to give.
You mean, when he blames himself for not being careful enough?
At any rate, it's obvious you're not going to be convinced, so I am finished with this discussion.
See, the only correct answer is NO.
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Although I ate pigs penis last night. It was okay.
Wow that sounds like a cool party...
No Coke, no hookers. But lots of beer and pig dick. I guess it was okay. I ended up like this.
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Yeah she strikes me as a person who feels very very sorry that she's going to prison when she truly believes killing that guy and getting away with it was simply her right.
So the testimony breaks for Sunday and is back on Monday.
Here's the moment when she broke down, at 1:12:00, she was fine, then the prosecution objected to something so they had to go sidebar to discuss. The video edited out the discussion, but when the defense came back to question her she was visibly emotional and upset... this got worse when she had to stand up and re-enact the moment she entered the apartment and the judge had to order a 10 min. break.
Yeah it could be action or you could say she was sad cos she could be going to jail but she was visibly emotional about the re-enactment part of it.
Here's the moment when she broke down, at 1:12:00, she was fine, then the prosecution objected to something so they had to go sidebar to discuss. The video edited out the discussion, but when the defense came back to question her she was visibly emotional and upset... this got worse when she had to stand up and re-enact the moment she entered the apartment and the judge had to order a 10 min. break.
Yeah it could be action or you could say she was sad cos she could be going to jail but she was visibly emotional about the re-enactment part of it.
To the prosecution's credit they did a really good job of crossing her, some highlights were:
- Pressing her on the fact that she shot straight ahead at the body while the autopsy suggests the bullet's direction was a downward trajectory
- Pressing her as to why she didn't perform CPR on the victim
- Pressing her as to why she didn't contain the situation and wait for backup (apparently the police headquarter is 2 blocks away from the apartment)
etc, etc.
For me I think it's gonna be a manslaughter, cos I don't think you can convince 12 Jury to go 1 way or the other in this case. I have a feeling there will be people who feel sympathy for her, but also people who wants her to pay for what she did.
We'll see.
Verdict should be early next week.
- Pressing her on the fact that she shot straight ahead at the body while the autopsy suggests the bullet's direction was a downward trajectory
- Pressing her as to why she didn't perform CPR on the victim
- Pressing her as to why she didn't contain the situation and wait for backup (apparently the police headquarter is 2 blocks away from the apartment)
etc, etc.
For me I think it's gonna be a manslaughter, cos I don't think you can convince 12 Jury to go 1 way or the other in this case. I have a feeling there will be people who feel sympathy for her, but also people who wants her to pay for what she did.
We'll see.
Verdict should be early next week.
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I don't remember seeing this in this thread but apparently the guys door didn't close or lock properly due to a malfunction. He also had a bright red door mat outside that she should have seen. The most damning thing is that she had a gunshot first aid kit with her but instead of helping the guy she took the time to text her married lover. She needs to get the maximum penalty.
Good god. At best, she is the worst emergency responder ever.
Given the other facts, this sounds a lot like murder and I’m glad the jury agrees.
Yeah I watched the 2 hour closing arguments.. the prosecution did a much better job of explaining the law and how to apply the law and was a lot more direct, the defense was very wishy washy. Once I'd heard the closing argument my thinking was it would probably be manslaughter at the very least.
And it took some convincing of some jurors because they started deliberating yesterday at around lunchtime and again about an hour or so today for the Jury to reach a verdict.
To me the turning point was in the closing argument when the Jury were asked to find whether it was reasonable for a 'reasonable person' to have gone into the wrong room and shoot the victim NOT was it reasonable for HER to have gone in the wrong room.
That's an important distinction because she was coming home from a long overtime shift at work and she was 'sexting' her partner so she would have been very tired and preoccupied. But if you're thinking about a 'reasonable person' all that circumstances that affected her can sorta be thrown out.
And it took some convincing of some jurors because they started deliberating yesterday at around lunchtime and again about an hour or so today for the Jury to reach a verdict.
To me the turning point was in the closing argument when the Jury were asked to find whether it was reasonable for a 'reasonable person' to have gone into the wrong room and shoot the victim NOT was it reasonable for HER to have gone in the wrong room.
That's an important distinction because she was coming home from a long overtime shift at work and she was 'sexting' her partner so she would have been very tired and preoccupied. But if you're thinking about a 'reasonable person' all that circumstances that affected her can sorta be thrown out.
Wait...what? I had to have missed something.