The Ultra-Early Best Damn Republican Nominee Political Poll Ever
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candrew
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It will be very difficult for Perry to bring the "success" he had in Texas to the rest of the country.
The big thing is Texas did not get hurt that much by the housing collapse in 2008. Land is cheap in Texas and there was no huge spike in housing prices because there is such a large surplus of land to build on.
Another thing is unless they strike oil in Michigan or Nevada or much of the Southeast, the rest of the country won't be able to take advantage of the high oil prices that Texas has been able to for the last 8 or 9 years.
And as mentioned before, his claim of job creation success is suspect. A large chunk of those jobs pay minimum wage or less and have no health insurance (Texas leads the country in uninsured children).
The big thing is Texas did not get hurt that much by the housing collapse in 2008. Land is cheap in Texas and there was no huge spike in housing prices because there is such a large surplus of land to build on.
Another thing is unless they strike oil in Michigan or Nevada or much of the Southeast, the rest of the country won't be able to take advantage of the high oil prices that Texas has been able to for the last 8 or 9 years.
And as mentioned before, his claim of job creation success is suspect. A large chunk of those jobs pay minimum wage or less and have no health insurance (Texas leads the country in uninsured children).
The Thriller
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candrew
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By process of elimination alone I think Perry has a very good chance of winning the nomination. He has an actual conservative pedigree and he has kept the wacky stuff down to a minimum - despite the fact that his spiritual advisor has stated publicly that he believes Oprah Winfrey is the Anti-Christ
And on what grounds do you defend that claim?
See, I've always liked Ron Paul... but always thought of him as "a snowball's chance in hell" candidate... but with his impressive showing in the Ames straw poll, it excites me.
I think he will protect (and to an extent, promote) the social strongholds of the Democratic party, but also will be able to rally both sides to establish reasonable economic compromise without screwing over either side, or being held hostage by either party.
I think he will protect (and to an extent, promote) the social strongholds of the Democratic party, but also will be able to rally both sides to establish reasonable economic compromise without screwing over either side, or being held hostage by either party.
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I can't think of a single politician in America that's a more hard-core Austrian-economics acolyte than Ron Paul. Ron Paul is a disaster for Progressives and anyone who supports basic New Deal programs.
And he's STILL the best option on the list because one is already out of the race, two are clueless and cynical and one is actively evil.
I guess here's my justification. Ron Paul is a Libertarian by any other name. He's going to support promoting the natural cycles of the market, irregardless. Ron Paul's Libertarian vision of capitalism is more beneficial to the determined commoner than the past GOP namesakes. Granted I advocate the Dem's social programs... but I think there is more than one way to skin a cat... the problem with me is that past GOPers have been skinning the wrong cat.
I also like his outlook on FairTax, my preferred economic tax reform.
Duck Rodgers
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How awesome would Peter Schiff as Treasury Sec be?
I don't believe there is any real way to reconcile support of Ron Paul with support for Social Security and Medicare.
It's regressive.
Fighting hyperinflation in 2010 really was an important policy priority. So yeah, exactly that awesome.
Beantown
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Spending, Obamacare, economy has gotten worse not better, America losing their triple rated credit.
PearlWatson
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I'm gonna have to burst your bubble and inform you that McCain came in 10th in the 2007 Ames straw poll.
I'm pretty sure Paul knows Americans paid their FICA and got practically no return on the "investment", and there's no way he's gonna be leading the charge to roll back eligibility age or benefits on that. He will be pulling troops home from all over the world and asking Congress to do the business of declaring wars for any foreign state attacking us and not for protecting corporate projects overseas. Medicare is also a line item on your pay stub, dude.
Progressives are very confused, being unwilling to see how regressive they are in almost all their great programs. Ecocraziness pushing jobs out the door to China, where more pollution is put into the air and circulates to us than we'd allow if we kept the industry here and just did it clean. Banning DDT on false "urban legends" of it's effects on birdshells and allowing malaria to become a major world source of human illness and death. Taking money out of people's own use and spending it willy-nilly, for tons of low-return or useless projects, thereby killing real economic growth.
Fighting hyperinflation with fiat currency outlays and more deficit spending than ever?
Ron Paul has explicitly stated that he believes Social Security and Medicare are Constitutional and that the programs should be ended, dude. He's not hiding the ball on this, his campaign website explicitly states that he wants to end "government healthcare monopolies" by returning the system to the way it was before Medicare and Medicaid and he's been saying he wants to abolish social security since at least the late 1980s.
This sentence literally meant nothing. It's like a thought fragment; but there's no there there.
There's hyperinflation? Where?
All undesirable results of those were the product of giant ****s taken by the GOP.
Good to have you back... now leave.
I'm in favor of ending these ineffective and worthless programs too. The money being taken from American's paychecks has been treated by the courts as a tax, not a benefit for taxpayers. I think the previous deductions should be repaid at standard bank interest and paid for outta taxes, while no further deductions are made. The other retirement tax sheltered programs like 401(k)s are being looked at with great ideas by progressives considering them assets the government should seize to balance their books and replaced by further unfunded "social security". 'Freakn' thieves.
If you compare all these ideas with Ron Paul's or my idea of ending the ripoff raids on people's money with high-falutin' promises of "securtiy" based on bankrupt fiat-currency-printin' counterfeit money "regulating" government, he's the only one out there calling it all what it is. And promising to end the ripoffs and the excess spending.
Our lack of "inflation" is the result of outsourcing jobs to slave-labor/massive polluters who can produce cheap stuff, and the inability of Americans to generally afford housing even at present still-inflated bubble prices,as measured against peoples' earnings. A lot of prices are going up, and people are not able to afford to spend like they did when they could finance huge consumer outlays with easy credit money from inflating home "values". But a lot of our non-inflation is just being ignored and not accurately tracked by government CPI policies. Been to a grocery store lately? Compare your gas pump outlays with historical prices? People have cut back spending and contracted the economy so much even the Chinese are complaining about losing us as customers.
Deflation is the other head of this economic monster. If people can't pay for stuff, producers have to sell for less. Maybe go outta business. More jobs lost. But government spending for worthless projects like rescuing bad bankers is not gonna do us any good. Goldman-Sachs and other selected/annointed TBTF banks have taken their gov bailout/easy credit funds and used them to try to support their bad investments, and since that money is all worthless so far as sustaining productive jobs, it will fail ultimately to start our economy from having liquidity to support productive jobs.
PearlWatson
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You know you love our partisan 4-play.