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2020 NBA trade deadline discussion

Handlogten's Heros said:
They got really ****** seconds too... out seconds are better than some they got.

We have glaring needs and kept our hands in our pockets... just like the players last night... we deserve to lose.

Scared money don’t make none.
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It sounds like the Jazz had some deals on the table and had to answer themselves: "is it a hell yes or no.."
 
If Conley doesn’t opt out, is there any way we have enough money to sign two solid free agents? Like Baynes AND Wood?
 
Jazzmix said:
It sounds like the Jazz had some deals on the table and had to answer themselves: "is it a hell yes or no.."
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**** you and the horse you rode in on :)… they should have asked themselves what is 100% of nothing... cuz that's what we getting from Niang and Bradley.

I don't think there were hell yes deals out there, but they are in a different environment... sports and business are different. It's why so many business gurus are arrogant coming into sports ownership then get they *** handed to them. Business is not a zero sum game...

So it can be a maybe this will work... lets cross our fingers... sometimes in business that is a better answer, but when you are established, busy, and don't need deals you get more selective... like the Bucks... they don't have an obvious upgrade spot in the rotation... we have two.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
If Conley doesn’t opt out, is there any way we have enough money to sign two solid free agents? Like Baynes AND Wood?
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We'd go into the tax unless we moved Ed and Tony. Wood may not get more than the MLE, but I doubt we'd invest that much in him... He's not "proven" enough. Baynes should get more than the BAE. We could give him one year at MLE... I'd be really worried... he's never healthy and he isn't a three point shooter like people think he is.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
We'd go into the tax unless we moved Ed and Tony. Wood may not get more than the MLE, but I doubt we'd invest that much in him... He's not "proven" enough. Baynes should get more than the BAE. We could give him one year at MLE... I'd be really worried... he's never healthy and he isn't a three point shooter like people think he is.
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Give me your solution if it’s one guy and give it to me if it’s two.

I trust you. Sort of.
 
Jazzmix said:
Yes, last year we "figured out" how to play against Houston in the series. But we were already down two games at the time..
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Wait, so we figured it out but got smoked anyway? Was it because we didn't have good enough players? Cuz we will be at a significant talent disadvantage to both LA teams and Denver... maybe even Houston again.

I do not think we are contenders... would love to give the front office truth serum and see if they believe it. We have like 5 development projects at the end of the roster that Quin won't use... two guys in the rotation that likely aren't rotation players for any other west playoff team. We need help.
 
SCS said:


BING -F********- O
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Does "any team" include Lakers or Nuggets? Our very low weren't "low" at all because we've been beating those sucky teams just fine. It is the good teams capable of exploiting our weakness on lack of athleticism, rebounding and perimeter D that is causes us all the problems. We are the very definition of high floor low ceiling type team that is killing all the poor teams in regular season and will likely head for an early round exit comes playoffs

Cant believe hes getting paid to tell these BS lol
 
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Wes Mantooth said:
Give me your solution if it’s one guy and give it to me if it’s two.

I trust you. Sort of.
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Give me Wood all day...

Seriously, he's the perfect 4/5... athletic long... allows you to shift up or down in size. Hitting the three, getting to the foul line, not a full defensive anchor, but does really good things. He's a pick and roll monster... like one of the best in the league.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Give me Wood all day...

Seriously, he's the perfect 4/5... athletic long... allows you to shift up or down in size. Hitting the three, getting to the foul line, not a full defensive anchor, but does really good things. He's a pick and roll monster... like one of the best in the league.
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Better defensively than Bradley?

If not him (he doesn’t seem like a “Jazz DNA” guy), who else?
 
One Clips alone, Harrell and Morris will be free agents. I imagine Green could opt out too.

There will be plenty a player available.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
Better defensively than Bradley?

If not him (he doesn’t seem like a “Jazz DNA” guy), who else?
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Bradley is not good at defense... I think Wood is solid with potential to do more. He has tools. But yes he is better than bad.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Wait, so we figured it out but got smoked anyway? Was it because we didn't have good enough players? Cuz we will be at a significant talent disadvantage to both LA teams and Denver... maybe even Houston again.

I do not think we are contenders... would love to give the front office truth serum and see if they believe it. We have like 5 development projects at the end of the roster that Quin won't use... two guys in the rotation that likely aren't rotation players for any other west playoff team. We need help.
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It was sarcasm. I meant that we changed our defense to stop Harden and it started to work better after first two games. We were more competitive from game 3 but still not able to really compete against them. Quin is good and he will definitely react to the opposition in the series but I doubt it will be enough to overcome the talent on other teams.
 
Jazzmix said:
It was sarcasm. I meant that we changed our defense to stop Harden and it started to work better after first two games. We were more competitive from game 3 but still not able to really compete against them. Quin is good and he will definitely react to the opposition in the series but I doubt it will be enough to overcome the talent on other teams.
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I’m not picking up on sarcasm today... just kinda pissy. I don’t think we are incompetent but over the years there are some puzzling mindsets that I think are not winning mindsets.


My bad if I skewer anyone... **** just frustrating.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Niang's defense is an issue. We have two seasons of data on this now... it can't be pinned on just Jeff Green. We are 9 pts per 100 possessions worse on defense with him on the court... this year and last... we are 5 pts worse on offense this year... last year we were only slightly worse.

I've seen enough... Brantley doesn't even have to make his threes, just play defense, rebound, and bring energy.
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Honestly, I think I could outrun Niang down the floor. He's a minivan in a world of GT coupes.
 
Udidthizz said:
He has a very solid body and plenty of energy, which is something we could use. Guys are bouncing of him when he plays through contact. I guess the problem for now is learning his role on defense.
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No amount of learning matters if guys can just run by you.
 
Ekpe Udoh is still a great option at a backup 5.

If Brantley can hit a 3 then he is probably better than most that was available.

Unless of course we were hoping for blockbuster and we had nothing anyone wanted....so that's that.

Cya guys next year.
 
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