Coronavirus

[Ron Mexico]

I'm reading the Vox article. What I think will happen is that industries will restart, one after another, with some semi-permanent rules to manage person-to-person contact.

Beyond that, however, I think the CDC and NIH have conceded that this covid19 will remain at large, it will continue to circulate along with all the other flu-like viruses, and eventually most people will be exposed to it. Assuming the virus doesn't mutate too much for the worse, fewer than 10% of those infected will require some form of treatment or hospitalization, and fewer than 10% of those who need medical treatment will pass away. High-risk groups, such as the elderly or people with conditions such as diabetes, will need to continue to isolate themselves for their own protection. Hospitals will have to organize their resources longer term to manage infectious disease as a greater priority.

Even if the U.S. instituted the mobile-tracking solution that's being used in Singapore, there would be a huge shortfall in people agreeing to comply with it. As the Vox article's data indicates, many people would refuse to install the mobile app because they don't want the government tracking them and telling them they need to quarantine. They would prefer to just get infected and bear the consequences. The vast majority of them will feel some symptoms for a week or two, like the flu, and then they'll go on about their lives.

Even when a vaccine comes out, a significant number of people will refuse to take it, I'd imagine.

China obviously has the ability to force people to do more. But they have been using phone tracking for awhile. But they don't force you to. It's mainly transportation that requires it. You can't get into a bus station, airport, or train station with out it. Then the other part is businesses requiring it to enter. But those take the government pushing it pretty hard on businesses.

 

[One Brow]

Of course it did. It's exactly why you and others predicting 75,000,000 cases was so unbelievably stupid and why I argued your stupid numbers ad nauseum. Because...it...was...so...stupid.

So, you were arguing in favor of the social distancing guidelines? I apologize for missing that.

 

[JazzyFresh]

So, you were arguing in favor of the social distancing guidelines? I apologize for missing that.

Yes... I was simply arguing that with measures taken, with averages of other countries numbers flattening, the average curvature before flattening, and the average exponential growth time period between these countries we will not hit nothing even close to 75,000,000. Do people now understand simple averages? Do you understand why I was asking why Americans will get sick at 30-50% like you all claimed while the rest of the world is under .08%?

I have repeatedly said I agree with social distancing. I have even given blue states like Washington and especially California officials like Newsome credit. I think this country as a whole has done a pretty damn good job and that includes Trump after his initial blunders.

 

[Beer]

Yes... I was simply arguing that with measures taken, with averages of other countries numbers flattening, the average curvature before flattening, and the average exponential growth time period between these countries we will not hit nothing even close to 75,000,000. Do people now understand simple averages? Do you understand why I was asking why Americans will get sick at 30-50% like you all claimed while the rest of the world is under .08%?

I have repeatedly said I agree with social distancing. I have even given blue states like Washington and especially California officials like Newsome credit. I think this country as a whole has done a pretty damn good job and that includes Trump after his initial blunders.

Yes, logical social distancing is good and makes sense. Shutting everything down is stupid and was bas on misinformation and fear.

 

[One Brow]

Yes... I was simply arguing that with measures taken, with averages of other countries numbers flattening, the average curvature before flattening, and the average exponential growth time period between these countries we will not hit nothing even close to 75,000,000.

Absent a vaccine, we'll still hit that, and probably exceed it. It will just take longer.

 

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[latin jazz]

Lol you guys were saying 75,000,000 people were going to get sick. You're flat out lying now to cover you're flat out stupid argument.

I guarantee you that you won't find one post of your guys that says the exponential growth will flatten out. Not one.

Let's see it.

Here, I produced a graph about "exponential growth". I really hope it helps the discussion :

 

[Scat]

LOL @latin jazz You sir have too much time on your hands!

 

[latin jazz]

LOL @latin jazz You sir have too much time on your hands!

Haha, actually I'm quite busy at the moment. But I thought it was worthwhile to make this.

 

[JazzGal]

I expect that in about two weeks from now, the numbers will go up some again. This is based upon my observation that people are getting bored with social distancing and are starting to ignore it. Groups keep gathering in my neighborhood, as well as in my office. I had three weeks where my directive to stay out of my office was maintained, but now I've had to lock my door because people keep dropping in as if they have forgotten. I get it, last night I left my gloves and mask in my office and was out to my car before I remembered my procedures. It's hard to maintain that level of vigilance. I can't imagine that this is only true in my immediate vicinity.

 

[Beer]

I expect that in about two weeks from now, the numbers will go up some again. This is based upon my observation that people are getting bored with social distancing and are starting to ignore it. Groups keep gathering in my neighborhood, as well as in my office. I had three weeks where my directive to stay out of my office was maintained, but now I've had to lock my door because people keep dropping in as if they have forgotten. I get it, last night I left my gloves and mask in my office and was out to my car before I remembered my procedures. It's hard to maintain that level of vigilance. I can't imagine that this is only true in my immediate vicinity.

And as a "sick" person you should take xtreme precaution. As a young healthy family we should do our best but not let our lives be ruined by this. This is all so absurd.

 

[JazzyFresh]

Here, I produced a graph about "exponential growth". I really hope it helps the discussion :
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Thanks this timeframe only reinforces how amazingly right I have been. Appreciate the hard work!!! The only reason I annoy you is because I prove most wrong here daily. Being wrong like you and others all the time has to be annoying.

 

[RandyForRubio]

We will definitely wait until he is fired to discuss the actual firing but hypotheticals can be discussed without hindsight. That's one of the cool things about hypotheticals.
They get discussed on this site all the time. This is one of those times.
Deal with it.

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Sure.

If Fauci is fired, it's stupid.

We also all realistically know it's not going to happen.

Hypothetically, I could become the president. Not worth the discussion though, because we all know it ain't gonna happen.

 

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[fishonjazz]

Here, I produced a graph about "exponential growth". I really hope it helps the discussion :
View attachment 9175

That's pretty awesome

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[latin jazz]

That's pretty awesome

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Haha thanks. Actually, you were in the third quote, it was something like "I love being right as always, fishonjazz you are wrong like always...". It was too long already so I removed that part. You went back and forth that day.

 

[JazzyFresh]

Only 74,385,357 more cases to go to hit that number you all geniuses promised and promoted(brainlessly fear mongered).

So whens this exponential growth supposed to happen like you falsely claimed? At this rate about 200,000 a day need to get sick for a full year to hit your smart numbers. Since April 1st we are averaging a little over 30,000.

I'm just glad we have a president that changed the 75,000,000-150,000,000 cases and millions dead, to around 10 million infected and less that 60,000 dead. I'm not sure any other president would've handled it so good. Hell Obama's virus infected 60 something million and it was a 1/4 of this virus.

 

[fishonjazz]

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[fishonjazz]

Only 74,385,357 more cases to go to hit that number you all geniuses promised and promoted(brainlessly fear mongered).

So whens this exponential growth supposed to happen like you falsely claimed? At this rate about 200,000 a day need to get sick for a full year to hit your smart numbers. Since April 1st we are averaging a little over 30,000.

I'm just glad we have a president that changed the 75,000,000-150,000,000 cases and millions dead, to around 10 million infected and less that 60,000 dead. I'm not sure any other president would've handled it so good. Hell Obama's virus infected 60 something million and it was a 1/4 of this virus.

Funny thing is that back in February trump said that we had 15 cases and that in a few days we would be at zero cases like a miracle. So i guess trump isnt such a genius and his numbers were a bit off lol.


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[MVP]

Reportedly, the U.S. was running 11 days behind Italy, based on the growing number of infections. So now it's 1.5 months?

To clarfiy, you are behind by taking this virus seriously. Plus average intelligence of american is way bellow of italian too.
Just read this. Pathetic and sad.
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...o-was-defiant-of-coronavirus-dies-of-covid-19