What's new
By:

Following Potential 2020 draftees

I wouldn't be expecting the Jazz to trade down folks. Tony Jones already tweeted that the Jazz view this pick as very important (because it is) and feel like they need a hit. He was tweeting about how important their draft position was last night.

The Jazz are in win now mode. They've already invested A LOT of money and assets into this team. They aren't surrendering an important asset to shed 5 million dollars.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I'm thinking more like our pick and Ed to Sacramento for Bjelica and #35

Something along those lines.
Click to expand...

I think Brooklyn might take Ed Davis back to be their 3rd center if Nic Claxton isn't ready -- like Utah sends #22 + Ed + future 2nd to move up to #19. That assumes BRK isn't moving that pick in a bigger deal. BRK has a two-year window with KD under contract and they're in desperate win-now mode. They're willing to move their picks this year.
 
Of course the Thunder lose.

The Rockets are going to lose too aren't they. Then we'll lose both coin tosses and fall to 23. Right?
 
A team that falls in love with Jalen Smith, Jahmius Ramsey, Desmond Bane, Tyler Bey, Zeke Nnaji or Leandro Bolmaro (who could be stashed overseas) might be willing to trade for our pick. I'm just not sure what we can offer to move up.
 
Catchall said:
Maybe. I'd hate to miss out on a guy over a meaningless summer league win.
Click to expand...

I've had this horrible feeling since last night that because we won that game we're gonna fall from 20 to 22/23 and then Kira Lewis Jr or Aleksej Pokusevski (or someone else) is gonna get picked at 21 and end up being a star.
 
SCS said:
I've had this horrible feeling since last night that because we won that game we're gonna fall from 20 to 22/23 and then KiraLewis Jr or Aleksej Pokusevski is gonna get picked at 21 and end up being a star.
Click to expand...

I don't think Kira Lewis will be on the board at #20. He's been moving up. But a guy like Tyrese Maxey or RJ Hampton could slip there, along with Poku. With Poku the issue is that he needs two solid years of development before he pays dividends, and not every team is that patient. BRK isn't going to be patient to develop Poku, and they're already developing Nic Claxton. So we could try to make a deal with them at #19. Another issue to be aware of is that the G-League may have a shortened season this next year due to covid. So there might not be the same opportunity to develop guys here. Poku might get stashed. That could cause him to drop a few spots.

The question the Jazz have to ask themselves is how they feel about Jaden McDaniels.
 
Catchall said:
I don't think Kira Lewis will be on the board at #20. He's been moving up. But a guy like Tyrese Maxey or RJ Hampton could slip there, along with Poku. With Poku the issue is that he needs two solid years of development before he pays dividends, and not every team is that patient. BRK isn't going to be patient to develop Poku, and they're already developing Nic Claxton. So we could try to make a deal with them at #19. Another issue to be aware of is that the G-League may have a shortened season this next year due to covid. So there might not be the same opportunity to develop guys here. Poku might get stashed. That could cause him to drop a few spots.

The question the Jazz have to ask themselves is how they feel about Jaden McDaniels.
Click to expand...

RJ Hampton is not gonna fall to 20 under any circumstances
 
David Stern said:
Since we got the lowest seed, we should get the best pick
Click to expand...
eh.. I feel like due to all he aftermath from the virus, this draft (and surely the next one too..), is gonna be more about the scouting that teams have been doing for years and that the order of the draft isnt gonna be as important as normal circumstances.
 
When you're drafting in the 20s, you pretty much have to draft the polarizing, underdeveloped, and under-scouted player with high upside in order to have a chance at drafting a star. You have to be willing to take some risk and draft a player with a high ceiling that several other teams overlooked--i.e., the Rudy Gobert or Andrei Kirilenko. In this draft, that would mean drafting Pokusevski or McDaniels. Maybe Paul Reed is a possibility if you think you can teach him how to shoot, but his shot may just be broken.

If we slip back to #22 or #23, I'm okay with Bolmaro and could settle for Maledon.
 
Last edited:
Catchall said:
When you're drafting in the 20s, you pretty much have to draft the polarizing, underdeveloped, and under-scouted player with high upside in order to have a chance at drafting a star. You have to be willing to take some risk and draft a player with a high ceiling that several other teams overlooked--i.e., the Rudy Gobert or Andrei Kirilenko. In this draft, that would mean drafting Pokusevski or McDaniels, maybe Paul Reed if you think you can teach him how to shoot.
Click to expand...
Or just draft the player you think is the best...

And how is Poku overlooked? The guy came on the scene out of nowhere and is getting hyped up.

And Jaden freaking McDaniels was a top 10 ranked HS player. Stop talking out your *** lmao.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Or just draft the player you think is the best...

And how is Poku overlooked? The guy came on the scene out of nowhere and is getting hyped up.

And Jaden freaking McDaniels was a top 10 ranked HS player. Stop talking out your *** lmao.
Click to expand...

McDaniels could drop to the mid-20s due to his physical development and attitude issues. Poku could drop to our range because he's 2 years away from being ready and might get stashed. Both are considered projects. If there weren't serious question marks, they wouldn't be possibilities in the 20s. Those are guys the Jazz are likely targeting.

Jazz don't need just a rotation player. They need a player with real upside who has the potential to raise the ceiling of the team. That's just logic, not talking out of one's ***.
 
I mean by definition anyone picked in the 20's+ is overlooked. Was Jimmy Butler a polarizing/underdeveloped pick?

There is no exact science to drafting. At the end of the day you pick the guy you think has the best mental and physical attributes to succeed in the NBA.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I mean by definition anyone picked in the 20's+ is overlooked. Was Jimmy Butler a polarizing/underdeveloped pick?

There is no exact science to drafting. At the end of the day you pick the guy you think has the best mental and physical attributes to succeed in the NBA.
Click to expand...

Anyone with star potential taken in the 20s is likely overlooked. Guys like Grayson Allen and Tony Bradley aren't overlooked. They're conservative, low-ceiling picks who are drafted to be role players off the bench. That's not what the Jazz need, since they have enough of those already.
 
Catchall said:
Anyone with star potential taken in the 20s is likely overlooked. Guys like Grayson Allen and Tony Bradley aren't overlooked. They're conservative, low-ceiling picks who are drafted to be role players off the bench. That's not what the Jazz need, since they have enough of those already.
Click to expand...
Uhh, what?
 
Anyone picked in the later portions of the draft is overlooked. It's not arguable lmao. You can create any narrative you want for why a player was overlooked.

Allen was overlooked because of his age. The same reason a guy like Jimmy Butler was overlooked.

Bradley was ranked super high by analytical models but overlooked because he isnt a clean fit in the modern NBA. https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id...north-carolina-center-tony-bradley-via-lakers

ESPN had him at 17% chance at being a starter in 5 years and 3% chance at being an All-Star with a 20% chance at being a rotation player.

 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Uhh, what?
Click to expand...

Players drafted in the 20s are normally role players who are lucky to stay in the league. Drafting a star in the 20s is rare and it's due to teams overlooking them or not being willing to take some risk.

Teams passed on Rudy Gobert because they thought he was too weak and unskilled. Teams passed on Andrei Kirilenko because they didn't scout him in Russia. Those are star players, the exception rather than the rule.
 
Catchall said:
Players drafted in the 20s are normally role players who are lucky to stay in the league. Drafting a star in the 20s is rare and it's due to teams overlooking them or not being willing to take some risk.

Teams passed on Rudy Gobert because they thought he was too weak and unskilled. Teams passed on Andrei Kirilenko because they didn't scout him in Russia. Those are star players, the exception rather than the rule.
Click to expand...

Yes, everyone who gets drafted later is passed on for a reason.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Share this page
Back
Top