jacktheripper
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Damn Straight
Derrick Favors now with "Dwight Howard-type shoulders"
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Damn Straight
Joe Bagadonuts
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I can't figure out why you would say this. Favors is far more likely to have grown in the last year than Howard is. A one year old infant is many times more likely to have grown in the past year than either of those two, though.
Because public, comprehensive measurements are only done once at the draft combine. Howard's numbers come from when he was 18, seven years ago. Favors' numbers come from when he was a year older than Dwight, last year.
Actually it was 7 months (age difference between Dwight and Derrick).
Jazz4ever
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Howard has grown, there is no question about it. He stands about equal to Chris Bosh who is a legit 6'11" on the Olympic pic I have side by side, no funny angles. He may be wearing platform inserts, but doubt it. Anyways, its safe to say his standing reach is at least 9'4" now, a full two inches over Favors. Unless Favors grows, which is very rare despite our cheerleading, Howard will always have a physical advantage over him.
Will Favors be able to play center still? Yes. Will he be undersized at least half the time? Unfortunately, yes.
Zerol
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Do you think Tyson Chandler and Andrew Bogut are undersized at the center spot? Both have standing reach of 9'2"...
Greg Monroe's reach is 9'0.5" and Noah's is 8'11.5".
Favors could play center last season with his length and athleticism, and with the bulk he added, he can definitely play center IMO.
Zerol
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My bad... I stand corrected. Bogut's reach is 9'2.5" and Noah's is 8'10.5".
Other starting centers whose data is available on DraftExpress:
J McGee - 9'6.5"
Brook Lopez - 9'5"
DeMarcus Cousins - 9'5"
Chris Kaman - 9'2.5"
M Gortat - 9'2"
Andre Bargnani - 9'2"
Nene - 9'1"
Amare Stoudemire - 9'0.5"
Al Horford - 8'11"
Coloradojazzfan
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Yeah, get real people, Howard is nowhere near as big as Favors.
Jazz4ever
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-Well Chandler came out of high school and was measured very young at the combine. He is listed at only 7' in shoes and is obviously much taller now. He is just a slightly above average center anyways, never a consistent double double threat and never cracked 2 blocks a game....
-Monroe the jury is still out. He is a smart efficient player but don't think his defense is anything special at center. Like I said the jury is still out, I wouldn't trade Favors for him though.
-Bogut is a legit argument, although being a natural 7 footer has some slight advantages over a longer armed 6'10 guy. Otherwise we could have ran AK and or Jeremy Evans at center who both have well into the 9's in standing reach.
-Noah is a little over rated I thought the Bulls were much better with Asik as their center. When Noah was matched up against a true center he was often exposed. There is no denying Noah plays the game with a fire and intensity though, I don't see Favors having that.
GVC
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What?
It's not Bogut's height that gives him an advantage over AK at the 5, it's his weight/strength. The height obsession on this board is truly mind boggling.
Asik > Noah? Holy ****.
Since we're talking about centers and what makes a good center. Here's some food for thought.
https://www.slcdunk.com/2011/8/2/2310892/find-your-true-center
https://www.slcdunk.com/2011/8/2/2310892/find-your-true-center
Jazz4ever
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Yes, my argument was Bogut's natural size lets him anchor a defense better than a 6'9" or 6'10" guy. You read it wrong or I wrote it poorly.
I like Asik as a true center over Noah. You have to watch the games to appreciate the massive impact he has on defense, it doesn't show up on box scores. Noah is thought to have much better offense but is a garbage man at heart....those guys get exposed against elite teams. In the Miami series he averaged 6 PPG at 31%
Archie Moses
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Noah >>>> Asik. No question.
Or you don't get it. The difference between Bogut and Jeremy Evans isn't how much off the ground their head is from the floor, the difference is Jeremy Evans weighs 80 pounds less than Bogut.
spycam1
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Thanks for posting.
If anything, that article confirmed my belief that Kanter will do just fine at the 5. He's got the height (6'11), the length (9'1.5 standing reach), speed (he really does seem to bounce around the court like a deer), strength (265 lbs and ~6% body fat. And at age 19, already managed to back down the likes of Kaman and Noah.)
As for Favors, I suppose I can see him as a center if he can bulk up to around 260 lbs.
Whether we'll list Kanter or Favors as our starting center 4 years from now, I'm not sure. But I think they'll both be perfectly able to play both post positions. And like the article said, "Players need to complement the other members of a team" and I think Kanter and Favors will compliment each other very well.
Looks like a bright future. How u
billyshelby
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I will notice when Favors starts playing like Howard. He's very far from that.
100% .. I feel very confident that we've got one of the best group of young guys in the league.