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Dave, these things contradict themselves on the issues you say you are going to focus on:

*Beautification of our neighborhoods, streets, and parks

*Curbing the ridiculous spending
 
Dave, these things contradict themselves on the issues you say you are going to focus on:

*Beautification of our neighborhoods, streets, and parks

*Curbing the ridiculous spending

First of all, you're not worth a response, but I'll bite and give you the, "Damn you're stupid, try to keep up." version:

Beautification of our neighborhoods, streets, and parks is paramount to the success of a city. I'll break it down as simply as possible: The city runs on tax dollars. You can only tax property so much, which means the other major source is sales tax revenue. If you're a business that is looking for a place to call home and you drive into a city that has poor upkeep, ugly parks, busted up streets and nasty neighborhoods, I think it's safe to say that you'll be taking your business -- and any future sales tax revenue -- with you to another city that gives a damn. I'm guessing you haven't driven through T-Ville lately and witnessed what the last eight years of doing nothing has accomplished.

Ridiculous spending includes $100,000.00 every year for three years to swap out street signs from green to blue so that they match the city's colors. That includes benefits for employees and elected officials that are better than most companies offer their employees. It also includes pay increases for city employees that fall above ordinances set by the city council, and thus are illegal.

Contradiction
con·tra·dic·tion
noun
1. the act of contradicting; gainsaying or opposition.
2. assertion of the contrary or opposite; denial.
3. a statement or proposition that contradicts or denies another or itself and is logically incongruous.
4. direct opposition between things compared; inconsistency.
5. a contradictory act, fact, etc.

Moron
mo·ron
noun
1. Informal: a person who is notably stupid or lacking in good judgment.
2. Psychology: (no longer in technical use; considered offensive) a person of borderline intelligence in a former and discarded classification of mental retardation, having an intelligence quotient of 50 to 69.
3. Millsapa.
 
And after all of this, I am finally realizing that I spelled "Cometh" wrong. Solid.


LOL!!! And it may be spelled incorrectly but it looks better that way than as something that could be misread as "co-meth"

but maybe that's just me
 
First of all, you're not worth a response, but I'll bite and give you the, "Damn you're stupid, try to keep up." version:

Beautification of our neighborhoods, streets, and parks is paramount to the success of a city. I'll break it down as simply as possible: The city runs on tax dollars. You can only tax property so much, which means the other major source is sales tax revenue. If you're a business that is looking for a place to call home and you drive into a city that has poor upkeep, ugly parks, busted up streets and nasty neighborhoods, I think it's safe to say that you'll be taking your business -- and any future sales tax revenue -- with you to another city that gives a damn. I'm guessing you haven't driven through T-Ville lately and witnessed what the last eight years of doing nothing has accomplished.

Ridiculous spending includes $100,000.00 every year for three years to swap out street signs from green to blue so that they match the city's colors. That includes benefits for employees and elected officials that are better than most companies offer their employees. It also includes pay increases for city employees that fall above ordinances set by the city council, and thus are illegal.

Contradiction
con·tra·dic·tion
noun
1. the act of contradicting; gainsaying or opposition.
2. assertion of the contrary or opposite; denial.
3. a statement or proposition that contradicts or denies another or itself and is logically incongruous.
4. direct opposition between things compared; inconsistency.
5. a contradictory act, fact, etc.

Moron
mo·ron
noun
1. Informal: a person who is notably stupid or lacking in good judgment.
2. Psychology: (no longer in technical use; considered offensive) a person of borderline intelligence in a former and discarded classification of mental retardation, having an intelligence quotient of 50 to 69.
3. Millsapa.

Is this an example of the "open minded discussion and dialogue" from a "humble servant?"
 
Is this an example of the "open minded discussion and dialogue" from a "humble servant?"

Nope, that was a citizen-shot of ownage dropped on an uninformed, unintelligent, highly unlikable douche nugget.

Open minded discussion and dialogue take two to tango.
 
Why would you go recruit members for a church you were never committed to and don't believe now?
At what point in time did I ever say I'm not committed to the Church or don't believe it now? Besides, whether I believe it now has bearing no on what I did 12-14 years ago.
 
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Nope, that was a citizen-shot of ownage dropped on an uninformed, unintelligent, highly unlikable douche nugget.

Open minded discussion and dialogue take two to tango.

So, when you are in a position of power you are going to suddenly be "open minded" or respectful to citizens who have opposing opinions, people who question your actions, or people you deem to be stupid or unlikeable?
 
Nope, that was a citizen-shot of ownage dropped on an uninformed, unintelligent, highly unlikable douche nugget.

Open minded discussion and dialogue take two to tango.

So, when you are in a position of power you are going to suddenly be "open minded" or respectful to citizens who have opposing opinions, people who question your actions, or people you deem to be stupid or unlikeable?
 
At what point in time did I ever say I'm not committed to the Church or don't believe it now? Besides, whether I believe it now has bearing no on what I did 12-14 years ago.

If Mormons believe their prophet speaks for God and a member proclaims they haven't bothered to listen to him speak for the last 12 years then wouldn't it appear that they were noncommital and/or didn't believe it?
 
If Mormons believe their prophet speaks for God and a member proclaims they haven't bothered to listen to him speak for the last 12 years then wouldn't it appear that they were noncommital and/or didn't believe it?
I said I haven't watched conference. Your HUGE jump to me not bothering to listen to the Prophet is absolute idiocy and completely retarded (although I should have expected it). There are more ways to hear the Prophet speak than to sit on the couch and watch General Conference. Ever heard of this thing called "reading"? It uses words. It's something most Elementary school students have been taught. It can even be done on the internet.
 
It is kind of funny to think that there could be some Verawati in Indonesia right now telling the story of how this great pious missionary from Canada came across the seas and changed her life, while GVC is back in Canada smoking a joint at the same time.
 
It is kind of funny to think that there could be some Verawati in Indonesia right now telling the story of how this great pious missionary from Canada came across the seas and changed her life, while GVC is back in Canada smoking a joint at the same time.

This.

Also, shame on you, Catratcho, for not conforming to every random person's notion of what a mormon should or should not be.
 
So, when you are in a position of power you are going to suddenly be "open minded" or respectful to citizens who have opposing opinions, people who question your actions, or people you deem to be stupid or unlikeable?

That is correct.
 
It is kind of funny to think that there could be some Verawati in Indonesia right now telling the story of how this great pious missionary from Canada came across the seas and changed her life, while GVC is back in Canada smoking a joint at the same time.

Awesome. I have a brother who is the same way, except exchange pot for alcohol. It's jolly good fun to bring up all the people he baptized -- he loves it.
 
First of all, you're not worth a response, but I'll bite and give you the, "Damn you're stupid, try to keep up." version:

Beautification of our neighborhoods, streets, and parks is paramount to the success of a city. I'll break it down as simply as possible: The city runs on tax dollars. You can only tax property so much, which means the other major source is sales tax revenue. If you're a business that is looking for a place to call home and you drive into a city that has poor upkeep, ugly parks, busted up streets and nasty neighborhoods, I think it's safe to say that you'll be taking your business -- and any future sales tax revenue -- with you to another city that gives a damn. I'm guessing you haven't driven through T-Ville lately and witnessed what the last eight years of doing nothing has accomplished.

Ridiculous spending includes $100,000.00 every year for three years to swap out street signs from green to blue so that they match the city's colors. That includes benefits for employees and elected officials that are better than most companies offer their employees. It also includes pay increases for city employees that fall above ordinances set by the city council, and thus are illegal.

Contradiction
con·tra·dic·tion
noun
1. the act of contradicting; gainsaying or opposition.
2. assertion of the contrary or opposite; denial.
3. a statement or proposition that contradicts or denies another or itself and is logically incongruous.
4. direct opposition between things compared; inconsistency.
5. a contradictory act, fact, etc.

Moron
mo·ron
noun
1. Informal: a person who is notably stupid or lacking in good judgment.
2. Psychology: (no longer in technical use; considered offensive) a person of borderline intelligence in a former and discarded classification of mental retardation, having an intelligence quotient of 50 to 69.
3. Millsapa.

Sounds like the sign shop is contributing to a lot of city council candidates. Do your homework, and go pay them a visit. Take a few bank bags with you. You'll fit right in with the crowd.

T-ville is pretty solidly developed. No new malls possible. No place for an industrial plant or warehouse.

West Valley City has passed a whole raft of beautification ordinances requiring homeowners to repave their driveways and such, knowing that their tax haul is based on bank appraisals of homes. I'd vote against ordinances like this as a triple tax on the citizens. They have to pay to fix up their outside appearances when the Nazi compliance officers give them heavy-fined citiations all for the privilege of collecting an automatic tax increase in the form of property tax.

Smart citizens will move out, and drugrunners will move in. Then the fatcat city council club will have to pay for more police in addition to ignoring their own ordinances on compensation because, of course, they deserve more.

I was sorta planning to move to T-ville as a sort of "Happy Valley" in Salt Lake County. Maybe I'd better wait and see. . . .
 
I said I haven't watched conference. Your HUGE jump to me not bothering to listen to the Prophet is absolute idiocy and completely retarded (although I should have expected it). There are more ways to hear the Prophet speak than to sit on the couch and watch General Conference. Ever heard of this thing called "reading"? It uses words. It's something most Elementary school students have been taught. It can even be done on the internet.

It really ain't much of a stretch after "listening" to you, in fact I consider the behavior I've witnessed from you and your Mormon friends to be far worse than the anti-mormons I've encountered.

Idiocy and retarded are synonyms, and you forgot some form of douche to stay in line with the other Mormons who have flung insults at me since joining this forum.
 
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