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Predict the Rudy Gobert trade

"Mitchell doesn't bend the defense to his will. Even Lopo just acknowledged that all opponents have to do is double-team him, and Mitchell can't make the offense work."

So bending the defense to his will is the definition of dominating to you?
 
NBA teams who want to win a ring in 2023 or 2024 won't care about 2026.

Lol we are not targeting teams who want to win a ring in 2023 we are targeting teams who want to make the playoffs or get to the 2nd round.
 
But its 3rd and 15 bro!!!! Screen PASS!!!! I kid.

Looked at Okongwu's numbers and splits because I hadn't seen him play in forever. He's been a lot better than I thought... I way undersold him. Just needs to stay on the damn court. Hawks medical staff must be garbage... seems like all their guys get hurt. I might be more inclined for a deal where they send Collins elsewhere and the focus of the deal is Onyeka, contract fluff, and draft capital.

I like Collins, but I can see the concerns about him as well. It wouldn't surprise me if ATL has hesitation to trade for Rudy because they believe in Okongwu. I think there's a good chance that he's better than Capela next year....if he wasn't already.
 
Just because a team was dumb enough to trade value for it doesn’t mean it’s not a terrible contract.

That’s like saying Royce is a great player just because someone would give us a pick for him.
There is spectrum between great and garbage. You don't need to be a great player to have positive value.
 
"Mitchell doesn't bend the defense to his will. Even Lopo just acknowledged that all opponents have to do is double-team him, and Mitchell can't make the offense work."
"All opponents have to do is double team him".... if that's what works, that's not Don's fault. That's now what I was saying at all. That's the fault of roster construction. I don't want to blame individual players, but you know the culprits.

No good NBA team's player should be able to be double teamed without getting severely burned.
 
"All opponents have to do is double team him".... if that's what works, that's not Don's fault.
True, As I mentioned above, I was not assigning blame to Mitchell for that. Very few players have that sort of ability.

No good NBA team's player should be able to be double teamed without getting severely burned.
Agreed.
 
I just think it’s hilarious that all of the major beat writers we respect on here agree on Rudy’s value as well as the reported rumored packages but there is a small army on JazzFanz who think 99% of everyone else is wrong and they are right.

I almost hope we don’t trade Gobert due to the mental breakdown a lot of you would have on here due to the package we got back not being enough in your eyes.
Are these the same beat writers that are talking about how Mitchell is holding the organization hostage and trying to setup leaving that you and LoPo ignore?
 
Sabonis, Barnes and 1st?
I mean, I’m team tank, so no. I want picks or promising rookie scale players.

On second thought: Since you could probably flip Sabonis and Barnes for such assets, then yes, actually.

Let me be clear on this though: if you’re asking me if I think Gobert is WAY better than Sabonis at playing winning basketball, the answer is yes.
 
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Are these the same beat writers that are talking about how Mitchell is holding the organization hostage and trying to setup leaving that you and LoPo ignore?

I literally said in a different thread that he is pulling a power play right now and we will see who the Jazz hire. He’s obviously laying the groundwork to ask out if things doesn’t go the way he wants it to. That doesn’t change anything about Gobert’s situation at all.
 
I literally said in a different thread that he is pulling a power play right now and we will see who the Jazz hire. He’s obviously laying the groundwork to ask out if things doesn’t go the way he wants it to. That doesn’t change anything about Gobert’s situation at all.
Aight. At least you can see that.

That being said, I don’t know why we’re ****ing around with this idea of trying to salvage a ****ed situation and an old, tired roster with a toxic locker room.
 
Aight. At least you can see that.

That being said, I don’t know why we’re ****ing around with this idea of trying to salvage a ****ed situation and an old, tired roster with a toxic locker room.

I believe in Donovan as a player. He’s REALLY ****ing good and the disrespect he gets around here is crazy. It’s sad that it has turned into a Donovan vs Rudy debate around here 24/7 but here we are.

Our floor is much higher with Rudy but our ceiling is much lower than with Donovan.
 
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Say we traded Rudy/Bogey for Hunter/Collins/Capela/16.

Then we moved Royce/16/2026 1st for Grant.

This works under the cap for every team and our new starting lineup is:

Donovan
Hunter
Grant
Collins
Capela

Then you still have Conley who you can move for depth or bring him pff the bench. That’s not a bad set of moves and this team would not win 38 games lmao. We’d be squarely in the race for a top-4 seed.
 
Tony Jones on whether he thinks Rudy is still on the Jazz next season or not.

I honestly think we are at 50-50 right now. Gobert is special. You can’t trade him just to trade him. If you are, you better be getting a quality return. If not, you need to keep him. Not sure how the Jazz build if they keep Gobert, but you simply can’t just give away a guy of his talent and durability.
 
Say we traded Rudy/Bogey for Hunter/Collins/Capela/16.

Then we moved Royce/16/2026 1st for Grant.

This works under the cap for every team and our new starting lineup is:

Donovan
Hunter
Grant
Collins
Capela

Then you still have Conley who you can move for depth or bring him pff the bench. That’s not a bad set of moves and this team would not win 38 games lmao. We’d be squarely in the race for a top-4 seed.
I REALLY REALLY want us to stop giving up picks for when Donovan will 100% not be on the Jazz anymore.
 
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