Josh Howard has agreed to terms with Utah

[BENTLEY]

Smh. Draft is always a risk from the lottery to the pick, winning is forever.

Pardon my negativity but so is a first round playoff exit.

And think of all the fond memories San Antonio had AFTER their '96-'97 season when they went 20-62. When you think of the spurs you think of all their winning seasons before that little blip that enabled those winning seasons.

It makes perfect sense.

 

[Matthew Thomas Castleton]

Why does everybody think that Josh Howard is going to start? I think that he most likely will be one of the primary reserves. Remember, he is coming off of MAJOR knee surgery. That is why we got him so cheap. He probably will never be the player he once was. I don't know if he is quite ready yet for a return to full-time starter minutes. However, he still should be a solid reserve, IMO. I like this depth chart:

PG: Devin Harris, Earl Watson, Jamaal Tinsley
SG: Gordon Hayward, C.J. Miles, Alec Burks
SF: Paul Millsap, Josh Howard, Jeremy Evans
PF: Derrick Favors, Mehmet Okur, Jeremy Evans
C: Al Jefferson, Enes Kanter, Mehmet Okur

That is one deep team. I will definitely be going to the open practice on Saturday. I can't wait for this season. On paper, we might have one of the deepest teams in the NBA talent-wise.

 

[Marty McFly]

Love this deal for the following reasons:

1. One year deal. This is fantastic - especially in case he turns into the '11-'12 version of last season's Raja Bell. Don't have to worry about using the amnesty clause on after his knees give out or he turns into a headcase. Nice work KOC.

2. The Spurs/Lakers didn't get him. I'm shocked he didn't go to San Antonio. I definitely pictured them signing him for a year and him playing a role in a nice playoff run.

3. It's symbolic of the Jazz moving into the Corbin era. No way Jerry would have put allowed this signing to happen. Even though this deal isn't really risky at all, the Jazz of the last quarter-century would not have done it.

4. Finally, and what people aren't really talking about that much, is he might actually help this club win some games. He's got big game experience and we all know he can score from a lot of different spots on the court. Hopefully he still has some chemistry with D-Harris.

 

[Nate505]

Any word on this? Corbin discarded the defense-forcing-middle strategy - is the headband rule next?

I hope so. That was the absolute dumbest rule I've ever seen implemented by Sloan...well, other than his "let's let everyone and their mother take wide open 3s all game" defensive strategy.

 

[Stifle Tower]

According to Chris Broussard.

And somewhere, carolinajazz just turned over in his grave.

 

[billyshelby]

Love this deal for the following reasons:

1. One year deal. This is fantastic - especially in case he turns into the '11-'12 version of last season's Raja Bell. Don't have to worry about using the amnesty clause on after his knees give out or he turns into a headcase. Nice work KOC.

2. The Spurs/Lakers didn't get him. I'm shocked he didn't go to San Antonio. I definitely pictured them signing him for a year and him playing a role in a nice playoff run.

3. It's symbolic of the Jazz moving into the Corbin era. No way Jerry would have put allowed this signing to happen. Even though this deal isn't really risky at all, the Jazz of the last quarter-century would not have done it.

4. Finally, and what people aren't really talking about that much, is he might actually help this club win some games. He's got big game experience and we all know he can score from a lot of different spots on the court. Hopefully he still has some chemistry with D-Harris.

Welcome back Marty. Stick around.

 

[The Thriller]

I think most concerning to me is his knee.

As I remember, he really sucked in Washington. It's been a few years since he has played good ball. We don't need another John Starks or Raja Bell on this team trying to hold on to a career that was really over years ago.
If he stays healthy, how effective will he be? He hasn't shot over .40 in a long time. We don't need another chucker.

If he sucks? How will he react to being dumped to the bench in favor of younger players?

The same logic could be applied to Raja Bell, Al Jefferson, and Paul Millsap?

How are our vets going to react if or when the young kids outplay them and demand more minutes? How will Ty Corbin manage these egos? It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

 

[Marty McFly]

Welcome back Marty. Stick around.

Just for you, billy.

 

[Stifle Tower]

True, but since his best years he's aged 4 years and has one blown ACL under his belt.

Howard is in Utah because he feels he can get minutes so he can prove he's still worth something so he can sign somewhere else next year. I'm sure he'll make some positive contributions on game nights; but when looking at the big picture, I just don't get this move.

We need depth this year due to the compressed schedule. In a normal year, you'd easily be able to get by with 4 bigs and 4 wings. This season, a lot of guys are going to be sucking wind when they play 4 games in 5 nights, etc.

The one year contract means Utah is free and clear if they need the space for 2 draft picks. Besides, if Howard and Tinsley are playing great and Utah is out of the playoff picture, the Jazz can trade them for picks to contenders. Having Miles, Tinsley, Howard and Okur with expiring deals also faciltates any trade opportunties that might pop up.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Good signing that fills a need. You "hope the jazz are terrible" fans got no sense at all.

Slow down there. Or you can use the "jump to conclusions" mat that you've got.

 

[Hanginthere]

According to Chris Broussard.

I'm okay with this deal as long as we ship Bell in some kind of trade and get rid of Kirilenko...

If we don't, then I'm with the general consensus in this thread... It just takes away minutes from our young talent...

That hurts our team in the long run...

The NBA isn't like the NFL... If guys with talent just sit and rot (Favors would be a good example, he almost became nothing in New Jersey), they normally don't end up being very good...

Basketball is a rhythm game, there is not so much to learn off the court, you more or less have to get out there and play!

I don't like the idea of two high draft picks just sitting on the bench... They did that with Hayward last year and only when they started playing him consistently, did he start to play well consistently...

JMO

 

[Revolution 9]

Weak? How so?

[video=youtube_share;MocapWGtwkQ]https://youtu.be/MocapWGtwkQ

 

[The Fresh Prince]

Man you guys are tasteless... Howard smokes his weed and is unpatriotic, but when healthy he plays some damn good basketball. Respect this signing and damn you all that don't want the jazz to go far this year.

 

[freakazoid]

damn you all that don't want the jazz to go far this year.

I'd love it if they won it all. I'd also be thrilled to see them reach the second round. Getting our asses handed to us in the first round, just so we can give our pick away is where I draw the line. Ideally, I'd like to see this team come away with some big wins against good teams, while acquiring a taste for blood. But if a first round shalacking should be the outcome, I'd rather have an extra chance at lottery gold. And for those who continually equate this to "you guys wanna lose on purpose", I will continue to troll.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

We need depth this year due to the compressed schedule. In a normal year, you'd easily be able to get by with 4 bigs and 4 wings. This season, a lot of guys are going to be sucking wind when they play 4 games in 5 nights, etc.

The one year contract means Utah is free and clear if they need the space for 2 draft picks. Besides, if Howard and Tinsley are playing great and Utah is out of the playoff picture, the Jazz can trade them for picks to contenders. Having Miles, Tinsley, Howard and Okur with expiring deals also faciltates any trade opportunties that might pop up.

Interesting that it took 6 pages for this to appear.

What I found interesting in the press releases is that KOC liked his rebounding. Obviously the sour not that was the Jazz' rebounding last year resonated with him.

 

[GVC]

I was talking about the weed. Which suspension would you like me to tell you about, moron?

You need to test positive (or otherwise get caught) 3 times for weed to earn a 5 game suspension (with "treatment programs" and the like for the first two offenses) . Josh Howard has never been suspended for weed. In his interview with Michael Irvin where he fessed to smoking weed in the offseason, he also stated that he doesn't smoke during the season. Even if he did, if he doesn't get caught 3 times, who cares?

And yes, I would like examples of players suspended for weed.

 

[carolinajazz]

And he better keep his tail out of jail.

.....he certainly doesn't need anymore jailhouse tats....that's for sure!

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

And somewhere, carolinajazz just turned over in his grave.

CJ is dead? How un-sad. That partially explains the sudden rush to fill the void as forum's worst poster. ChiTown has taken the lead, IMO.

 

[salo]

And yes, I would like examples of players suspended for weed.

off the top of my head:

lamar odom.
brad miller.
darius miles.
jason williams.
chris anderson.
brandon rush.
ricky davis.
cliff robinson.
maurice taylor.


there are also any number of other famed smokers who haven't been suspended by the league:
marcus camby.
damon stoudamire.
jr rider.
michael beasley.

i haven't got a problem with any of them.

back on topic, i like this signing.
it says to me that ak's asking price was way too high and the jazz found a comparable role player for (hopefully) much less.
if howard can regain any of his previous form, provide some veteran presence and not rock the boat too much in utah it's a great signing.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

.....he certainly doesn't need anymore jailhouse tats....that's for sure!

Damn. The rumor wasn't true.