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Can the C.J. Miles experiment please end?

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TroutBum said:
You say that now. Just you wait. There is some German guy who posts here who has the signature to beat all signatures that shows how Chucker J. has gotten progressively worse every season he's worn a Jazz jersey.

Vindication will be a bitter, bitter personal victory.
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You just can't give up on CJ. He's only 24. Consider his first 4 years as if he was in College. And you can't judge a player until their 3rd year in the league, so this is really that year. He has finally matured, and he will hit his stride. CJ is going to be the real "heir Jordan", not the fake ones that come along every year.

A key indicator which shows why CJ is ready to explode on the league is the steadily increasing block stat.
0.1 the first 3 years, doubled to 0.2 in year 4, 0.3 Year 5, 0.5 Year 6, and if the trend proves out he should easily be at 0.7 bpg this year.
 
My friend and I call CJ Miles Ham Sandwich because I would trade him for a ham sandwich.
 
JazzSpazz said:
You just can't give up on CJ. He's only 24. Consider his first 4 years as if he was in College. And you can't judge a player until their 3rd year in the league, so this is really that year. He has finally matured, and he will hit his stride. CJ is going to be the real "heir Jordan", not the fake ones that come along every year.

A key indicator which shows why CJ is ready to explode on the league is the steadily increasing block stat.
0.1 the first 3 years, doubled to 0.2 in year 4, 0.3 Year 5, 0.5 Year 6, and if the trend proves out he should easily be at 0.7 bpg this year.
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I cannot argue with this flawless logic.
 
Gojazz79 said:
My friend and I call CJ Miles Ham Sandwich because I would trade him for a ham sandwich.
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Yeah, but who would give up a ham sammich for that guy?

But then again, if said sandwich was made with boiled/processed ham, and it was in the fridge for a week it could work... if there's pickles on it.
 
JazzSpazz said:
You just can't give up on CJ. He's only 24. Consider his first 4 years as if he was in College. And you can't judge a player until their 3rd year in the league, so this is really that year. He has finally matured, and he will hit his stride. CJ is going to be the real "heir Jordan", not the fake ones that come along every year.

A key indicator which shows why CJ is ready to explode on the league is the steadily increasing block stat.
0.1 the first 3 years, doubled to 0.2 in year 4, 0.3 Year 5, 0.5 Year 6, and if the trend proves out he should easily be at 0.7 bpg this year.
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I like your thinking. Blocked shots is indeed key to growth in this league. I truly believe that he will get it up to 1 block this year. Whoops wait we just signed another SF. Darn it!
 
ElRoach0 said:
Yeah, but who would give up a ham sammich for that guy?

But then again, if said sandwich was made with boiled/processed ham, and it was in the fridge for a week it could work... if there's pickles on it.
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Lol, I like you.
 
He is a preseason hero alright. Here are his preseason stats from last year

10-11 UTA 8 2 21.9 0.456 0.450 0.889 0.5 2.6 3.1 0.8 1.5 0.1 0.88 2.88 11.9

46% FG, 45% 3, 89% FT

Then the real games started and he ended at

10-11 UTA 78 19 25.2 0.407 0.322 0.811 0.7 2.6 3.3 1.7 1.0 0.5 1.19 2.83 12.8

40% FG, 32% 3, 81% FT

So we can all cheer him on while he tears it up during preseason. I will believe something is actually different when his numbers are different in real games, not the crap he has been putting up, getting worse year over year for 4 straight years. If he takes significant minutes away from Burks or Hayward, then he damn well better be putting up better numbers than that. And if he is, I will cheer him on. Go CJ!!
 
Interesting comparison. Hayward after one season and CJ after 6 seasons career highlights:

Hayward

SEASON HIGHS/CAREER HIGHS

Points 34 vs. Denver 04/13/11
Field Goals Made 12 vs. Denver 04/13/11
Field Goals Attempted 17 vs. Denver 04/13/11
Three Point Field Goals Made 5 2 Times
Three Point Field Goals Attempted 6 vs. Denver 04/13/11
Free Throws Made 8 vs. Portland 04/07/11
Free Throws Attempted 8 vs. Portland 04/07/11
Offensive Rebounds 4 @ Denver 10/27/10
Defensive Rebounds 6 @ Phoenix 02/15/11
Total Rebounds 8 @ Phoenix 02/15/11
Assists 5 3 Times
Steals 3 @ Phoenix 02/15/11
Blocks 3 2 Times
Minutes Played 44 @ L.A. Clippers 12/29/10


CJ

SEASON HIGHS/CAREER HIGHS

Points 40 vs. Minnesota 03/16/11
Field Goals Made 14 vs. Minnesota 03/16/11
Field Goals Attempted 21 vs. Philadelphia 03/14/11
Three Point Field Goals Made 7 @ Portland 11/20/10
Three Point Field Goals Attempted 12 vs. Washington 03/28/11
Free Throws Made 11 @ Dallas 02/23/11
Free Throws Attempted 12 @ Dallas 02/23/11
Offensive Rebounds 4 @ Washington 11/12/08
Defensive Rebounds 7 2 Times
Total Rebounds 10 @ San Antonio 11/21/08
Assists 5 8 Times
Steals 4 @ Milwaukee 03/12/10
Blocks 3 vs. Phoenix 01/10/08
Minutes Played 46 vs. Oklahoma City 04/06/10
 
Interesting. So would you suppose we should see Hayward multiple these numbers, by 6, in 2016? Kidz

Good stuff.
 
We are freaking stacked at the shooting guard and small forward positions. I'm going try to curb my enthusiasm after tonight because we didn't see Millsap, Jefferson, or Howard, but I think that the Jazz definitely make it back to the playoffs this year. C.J. and Gordon Hayward really impressed me tonight. This might be one of the most talented Jazz teams we have had in a while. We are DEEP!!!!
 
Matthew Thomas Castleton said:
We are freaking stacked at the shooting guard and small forward positions. I'm going try to curb my enthusiasm after tonight because we didn't see Millsap, Jefferson, or Howard, but I think that the Jazz definitely make it back to the playoffs this year. C.J. and Gordon Hayward really impressed me tonight. This might be one of the most talented Jazz teams we have had in a while. We are DEEP!!!!
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On the wings, we have a mix of aging/under-performing vets and inexperienced youngsters. The two and three are easily our weakest positions right now. Though I do see a lot of potential.
 
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