Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

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I'm on my phone. Hard to look up at this time.

There were a couple threads beating around the same bush of "we can't win" type statements. It's just so lame.

Buy in to what Coach Hardy and Ainge are doing. Too many guys here trying to control the narrative. Just let things happen.

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It's OK for people to feel disillusioned and pessimistic about the short-term prospects of this team after we lost two of the main driving forces of the success of this team - Gobert and Quin. It really is OK, you don't need to feel offended by it. Furthermore, you don't need to feel offended by people expressing their feelings of a loss after the player they've rooted for for the last decade is now gone. Let them 'grieve' and deal with it in their own way. Sooner or later it will pass. And you don't need to feel the same way either, but why be a jerk about the way others feel?

 

[LoPo]

Those are far more egregious cases of asset mismanagement and they don’t require a deep analysis to reach that conclusion.

The Mike Conley trade is the worst move in team history.

Somebody will bring up Dominique Wilkins, but nobody knew what he would be. The Magic pick either.

We knew what Conley was. We knew his contract. We knew his market. His contract was an overpay then we overpaid to get him. Nobody else on the roster was overpaid in the 3 years that Conley was here, but he was so overpaid that we had to sacrifice draft assets to dump contracts that weren't really all that big.

This is me beating a deadhorse, but it doesn't mean I'm wrong. It's being discussed by others and I'm just chiming in.

 

[LoPo]

It's OK for people to feel disillusioned and pessimistic about the short-term prospects of this team after we lost two of the main driving forces of the success of this team - Gobert and Quin. It really is OK, you don't need to feel offended by it. Furthermore, you don't need to feel offended by people expressing their feelings of a loss after the player they've rooted for for the last decade is now gone. Let them 'grieve' and deal with it in their own way. Sooner or later it will pass. And you don't need to feel the same way either, but why be a jerk about the way others feel?

I'm not offended by anything.

And it's not going to pass. The negativity in here is staggering. I'm trying to combat it. We don't even know what Coach Hardy will do, but everybody has made up their minds on what will happen. People aren't mourning, they are lashing out.

And I'm not being a jerk to anybody.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

He just lies and misrepresents while attacking people the whole time. Lives largely in a negative approach. Perfect role model for today's social media.

I'm not offended by anything.

And it's not going to pass. The negativity in here is staggering. I'm trying to combat it. We don't even know what Coach Hardy will do, but everybody has made up their minds on what will happen. People aren't mourning, they are lashing out.

And I'm not being a jerk to anybody.

I swear you made a post today about how a poster needs to "stop sucking Gobert off" but yeah, I'm the negative one and you arent a jerk to anybody.

 

[NUMBERICA]

The Mike Conley trade is the worst move in team history.

Jesus Christ dude. 3 of the most inane posts you've ever made all in a single day.

 

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The Jazz traded the pick that became Magic Johnson as compensation for acquiring 33 year old Gail Goodrich. So yeah... that Mike Conley trade is not even close to the worst in franchise history.

 

[LoPo]

Jesus Christ dude. 3 of the most inane posts you've ever made all in a single day.

We had two future Hall of Famers in their primes with cap space. We sacrificed all of it on a guy who never showed up in the postseason enough to make more of a difference than Ricky Rubio.

We have brought back worse players in trades, but nothing hurt like this deal. It truly cost us everything we had built.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

The Jazz traded the pick that became Magic Johnson as compensation for acquiring 33 year old Gail Goodrich.

Bro but you had no idea what Magic Johnson could be!

 

[NUMBERICA]

We had two future Hall of Famers in their primes with cap space. We sacrificed all of it on a guy who never showed up in the postseason enough to make more of a difference than Ricky Rubio.

We have brought back worse players in trades, but nothing hurt like this deal. It truly cost us everything we had built.

And if they did nothing? Would that have been better? How do you know it would've been better? If there was something better sitting there, what was it? How do you know that? And if it's so obvious, why didn't the Jazz do it?

Off the top of my head, losing Hayward for nothing, drafting Udoka, and signing Favors only to use a valuable pick to dump him less than a year later are far, far worse moves.

 

[Elizah Huge]

The Mike Conley trade gave this team its highest ceiling in 15 years but yeah it was so terrible.

Conley was so ****ing good in 2020-21. 16.2 PPG, 6 APG, 3.5 RPG, 41.2% from 3 on 6.6 attempts per game. 3 to 1 ast/to ratio.

If he doesn’t get injured we’re in the WCF but that is somehow a bad trade? Sign me up for that 10/10 times.

 

[LoPo]

And if they did nothing? Would that have been better? How do you know it would've been better? If there was something better sitting there, what was it? How do you know that? And if it's so obvious, why didn't the Jazz do it?

Quit changing the conversation.

The trade we made was a failure. That's what I'm saying. Was it not?

It's not like some draft pick that eventually became a hall of famer. We didn't intentionally trade the #1 pick in a draft for Gail Goodrich. We did that trade in 1976. Magic wasn't even drafted until 1979.

 

[LoPo]

The Mike Conley trade gave this team its highest ceiling in 15 years but yeah it was so terrible.

Conley was so ****ing good in 2020-21. 16.2 PPG, 6 APG, 3.5 RPG, 41.2% from 3 on 6.6 attempts per game. 3 to 1 ast/to ratio.

If he doesn’t get injured we’re in the WCF but that is somehow a bad trade? Sign me up for that 10/10 times.

Yet even when healthy, he never tilted the balance in a playoff series. Unless tilting the balance downwards like he did this year.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Yet even when healthy, he never tilted the balance in a playoff series. Unless tilting the balance downwards like he did this year.

We literally beat the Clippers if he’s healthy.

 

[LoPo]

As you can tell, I'm bored at work.

 

[RandyForRubio]

We had two future Hall of Famers in their primes with cap space. We sacrificed all of it on a guy who never showed up in the postseason enough to make more of a difference than Ricky Rubio.

We have brought back worse players in trades, but nothing hurt like this deal. It truly cost us everything we had built.

Mitchell. A future HOF player? Bro…cmon lol

 

[NUMBERICA]

Quit changing the narrative.

How am I changing the narrative? Quit grafting criticisms made of you into arguments that make no sense.

In no scenario is trading a few mediocre players for a former franchise player that became an All-Star and the floor general for the league's best offense the worst move a franchise has ever made. I don't care the team or the context. That's not a thing.

 

[LoPo]

We literally beat the Clippers if he’s healthy.

We beat the Clippers if Donovan was healthy

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Mitchell. A future HOF player? Bro…cmon lol

Mitchell will pretty easily make HOF barring tragic injury. You pass a certain threshold of points scored in a career you and automatically make it. Mitchell will do that.

 

[Elizah Huge]

We beat the Clippers if Donovan was healthy

He was healthy. He played every game that series. He wasn’t 100% but if you deny the fact that we win that series if Conley is healthy then you’re more far gone than I thought. I think you are a legit hater of Gobert/Conley.

 

[NUMBERICA]

He was healthy. He played every game that series. He wasn’t 100% but if you deny the fact that we win that series if Conley is healthy then you’re more far gone than I thought. I think you are a legit hater of Gobert/Conley.

AKA the +/- gods of the team.