David Hume
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Barrett, then unprotected 1st round picks.
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IDK, I'm not the best at this stuff, but this is what RealGM says:
That sounds like NYK only gets it if it's 1-4 to me.
That **** makes no sense and is not correct.
Portland got New Orleans 1st in 2022 if it landed within 5-14 in the McCollum deal. It did not and it conveyed to Milwaukee’s 2025 1st 1-4 protected.
They then traded that pick to Detroit for Jerami Grant who then traded it to the Knicks.
Why would Detroit trade Jerami Grant for a pick that would only convey if it landed 1-4 in 2025. That’s just not correct information.
Avery
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The MIL pick in 2025 goes like this:
1-4 to NOP; 5-30 to NYK (via NOP to POR to DET)
So the Knicks have it as a tradable piece as it's likely MIL finishes between 5 and 30. Pels get it only through a hail mary which in turn means the Knicks get absolutely nothing.
Just assume it's probably going to be in the 20's.
1-4 to NOP; 5-30 to NYK (via NOP to POR to DET)
So the Knicks have it as a tradable piece as it's likely MIL finishes between 5 and 30. Pels get it only through a hail mary which in turn means the Knicks get absolutely nothing.
Just assume it's probably going to be in the 20's.
I would agree what you are saying makes more sense, but I would have to see it on another website.
I don’t blame you you’re just going off of RealGM who I like to use as well but that just isn’t right lmao.
Maneesh
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Well if no Barrett, they can f there family memebers. It start there and adds
seattlejazzfan
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barrett isn't very good. and for a young player who is supposed to be getting better, he was actually worse in his third year than he was in his second.
Maneesh
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Middleton has similar trajectory? No? Mean he seems to have more alto show
Well to me he clearly isnt a #1 guy, maybe not even a #2, but if you put him on a better team he'd probably look much better. Knicks roster was just very lack luster in terms of creation ability and passing.
I’m not sure how you can say he isn’t very good. He didn’t get worse either he didn’t shoot it from 3 as well is all. We can work with that.
Avery
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I'd agree with this take. Barrett's three point shooting is suspect, but he's a clear top echelon guy on a contender and those don't grow on trees.
But I'd let the Knicks keep him just to get more picks as they see him pairing with DM/Brunson and making for a pretty good team.
Maneesh
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Seems jazz need a good known and not just draft I think it’s true. I agree with you
23/25/27/29 1sts from Knicks
24/26/28 pick swap 1sts
23 Dallas 1st
23 Detroit 1st
23 Washington 1st
25 Milwaukee 1st
Then we will take Quickley/Toppin/Grimes and salary filler. They can keep Barrett if they send us all of their picks.
24/26/28 pick swap 1sts
23 Dallas 1st
23 Detroit 1st
23 Washington 1st
25 Milwaukee 1st
Then we will take Quickley/Toppin/Grimes and salary filler. They can keep Barrett if they send us all of their picks.
I fixed the Milwaukee pick thing since I think it's probably like Huge said.
seattlejazzfan
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yeah, he did get worse. TS% his second year was 53% - which is still bad. His third year it dropped to 51% which is near the basketball mendoza line - we'll call it the Elfrid line for now. and he was the same way at duke. he's just a guy who likes to shoot a lot and take bad shots despite the fact he isn't very good at making them.
it's just who he is - at least who he has been to this point in his basketball career. let somebody else take the gamble that he becomes a different player some day.
Coach Ellis
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2025 Trades and Protections
Looks like the Milwaukee pick is only too 4 protected. Makes it a middling asset. Decent, but not great.
I listed them all for you...
Udidthizz
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And I appreciate that. I just meant it’s too much for me to go through the whole list on a mobile device, so I mentioned the ones that interest me most.