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Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

The deal that makes the most sense for both teams is Bogey/Beasley/Clarkson.

Bogey is expiring, Beasley has a team option next year (Lakers can pick it up if they need him for salary in a sign-and-trade) and Clarkson likely opts out next year to get a bigger contract. We save around 1.3M worth of salary as well to get us 3M under the luxury tax.
 
It's basically only the Spurs or Jazz now, if a deal happens.

The Pacers publicly pulling out tells me the Lakers are non-negotiable about giving up 2 picks.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
It's basically only the Spurs or Jazz now, if a deal happens.

The Pacers publicly pulling out tells me the Lakers are non-negotiable about giving up 2 picks.
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The Spurs don’t really have a viable combination of players the Lakers would want I think.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
It's basically only the Spurs or Jazz now, if a deal happens.

The Pacers publicly pulling out tells me the Lakers are non-negotiable about giving up 2 picks.
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Or that they don’t want salary on the books the next year, or that their particular package isn’t worth 2 firsts (it isn’t). Or that the Pacers just gave up too soon and created an even stronger position for the Jazz.
 
Elizah Huge said:
The deal that makes the most sense for both teams is Bogey/Beasley/Clarkson.

Bogey is expiring, Beasley has a team option next year (Lakers can pick it up if they need him for salary in a sign-and-trade) and Clarkson likely opts out next year to get a bigger contract. We save around 1.3M worth of salary as well to get us 3M under the luxury tax.
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If we are still trying to get both picks Vando will have to be in the deal. If you want full conspiracy theories with our activities... then we signed some centers because one (vando) is going out in trade. I can see the package above netting a first and a swap and that may be as far as they want to go. JC is useful but Schroeder can be the super sixth man... so I'm not sure he goes to LA in the deal (if it happens). For salary purposes he'd likely need to be in there.

Ainge been full of surprises so the Lakers almost seems too obvious
 
NUMBERICA said:
That are expiring? No, they don’t at all.

It’s the Jazz or it isn’t happening.
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They are under the cap still though... so they are very much in the game. They reportedly want 2 first for Poeltl so I don't see it happening.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
If we are still trying to get both picks Vando will have to be in the deal. If you want full conspiracy theories with our activities... then we signed some centers because one (vando) is going out in trade. I can see the package above netting a first and a swap and that may be as far as they want to go. JC is useful but Schroeder can be the super sixth man... so I'm not sure he goes to LA in the deal (if it happens). For salary purposes he'd likely need to be in there.

Ainge been full of surprises so the Lakers almost seems too obvious
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Don’t really see a viable deal with Vando unless the Lakers are willing to take on extra salary.
 
Bogey/Conley/Vando is only a 459K difference in salary but I don’t think they want Conley’s salary next year. Maybe they do we will see.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Okay. What PLAYERS are they sending back that make them even a pretender this year (that ideally are also expiring)?
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It would be Poeltl and Richardson. Maybe throw in Zach Collins. They would save a **** ton of money.

I don't think they give two picks for that package and its on par with Bogey, Beasley, JC... though Poeltl is a +/- god so maybe some would view it as better.
 
Elizah Huge said:
Bogey/Conley/Vando is only a 459K difference in salary but I don’t think they want Conley’s salary next year. Maybe they do we will see.
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Bogey/Beasely/JC/Vando for Russ/Nunn or Bogey/Beasely/Vando/NAW for Russ... maybe Gay gets added in for NAW.
 
Elizah Huge said:
Exactly. There is no viable combination.
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We are the team that has:
-multiple high-level floor spacers at positions of need on expiring contracts (and good enough that having the option of Bird Rights or a team option is valuable)
-an actually good big (on a dirt-cheap contract that they could either keep and work around or dump into someone’s space)

The Lakers will have to budge on at least one of having cap space next year, being good, and having their picks. They can’t have all of those, and the Jazz are the only team that can provide even two of those.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
It would be Poeltl and Richardson. Maybe throw in Zach Collins. They would save a **** ton of money.

I don't think they give two picks for that package and its on par with Bogey, Beasley, JC... though Poeltl is a +/- god so maybe some would view it as better.
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Lebron didn’t just extend for the ownership to save a bunch of money.
 
Elizah Huge said:
Bogey/Conley/Vando is only a 459K difference in salary but I don’t think they want Conley’s salary next year. Maybe they do we will see.
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I think Conley might be in the package if this bull **** goes into the season (and Bogey’s gone) but I see no way he’s in discussions right now.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Lebron didn’t just extend for the ownership to save a bunch of money.
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I agree but Poeltl and Richardson would make them much better than Russ... so you sell it as a basketball move that creates "flexibility".

I'm just saying there are other potential teams out there... I think we are the best match... but they also might elect to keep Russ and the picks (it seems nuts but maybe they dumb enough to do it).

I don't want to make the same mistake Knicks fans made.
 
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