Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

[Engorged On Unborn Gore]

As long as we still suck the KO deal isn't a catastrophe. Its a C- deal... the THT is an F.

What are your grades for the gobert and Mitchell trades?

 

[NUMBERICA]

What are your grades for the gobert and Mitchell trades?

For me, it's A and B+, respectively.

 

[Engorged On Unborn Gore]

For me, it's A and B+, respectively.

I agree with the B+. But Gobert is beyond an A.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

The Gobert trade was much much worse than the Mitchell trade

 

[Elizah Huge]

The Gobert trade was much much worse than the Mitchell trade

The Gobert trade is going to go down in history as one of the worst trades of all-time.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

There's a chance the Gobert doesnt produce a single "plus" starter.

At least the Mitchell trade likely has at least one in Markkanen.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

The Gobert trade is going to go down in history as one of the worst trades of all-time.

From who's POV?

I think it will go down as one of the best for the Wolves and a solid one for Utah. I just hope Utah is able to group the picks together for a blockbuster trade. If they let the picks happen though, they will be very mediocre save for some draft luck where we nail picks in the 20's.

 

[Engorged On Unborn Gore]

The Gobert trade was much much worse than the Mitchell trade

That won't be decided until the pics are managed.

But until that happens, there's no one on the planet who expected the Jazz to obtain that type of pick haul for Gobert. It is an unprecedented trade.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

That won't be decided until the pics are managed.

But until that happens, there's no one on the planet who expected the Jazz to obtain that type of pick haul for Gobert. It is an unprecedented trade.

It wont be decided yet you yourself made judgements on which trade was better?

Is this another case of everyone is allowed to have an opinion except when it doesnt agree with my opinion type thing?

 

[Engorged On Unborn Gore]

Is this another case of everyone is allowed to have an opinion except when it doesnt agree with my opinion type thing?

If one could argue that _your_ opinion constitutes the dominant content of this forum, then that question might be for you alone.

As for me, all opinions are welcome

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

What are your grades for the gobert and Mitchell trades?

A and A-

 

[Engorged On Unborn Gore]

A and A-

Pretty good grade average on the classes that matter (English and Math).

Didn't bother finishing the final project for sewing, so F. Refused to attempt climbing the rope in gym class, so D.

JFC wants to fire this guy, right?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I think you’re giving it a C- because you’re favoring THT as an F. THT deal is terrible, for sure. But if you get a 40% in a class, it’s still the same F as someone who got 60%, even if they are fairly far apart. They were both Fs. Different percentiles of bad but both Fs.

In some ways it’s an F… it has yet to produce a future asset which should be our focus (converting players with value now for future value). It still has potential to bring value later and at least doesn’t add a future liability.

They also may not be looking at this team situation the same as us. We want no good players back so we can tank… if you are just looking player for player it’s bad but it’s not F bad. If you were looking at it as two years of KO for 24M vs 1 year of Bogey for 19.5 then maybe it’s okay to get the worse player?

That’s why it’s a c- in my grade book.

 

[infection]

In some ways it’s an F… it has yet to produce a future asset which should be our focus (converting players with value now for future value). It still has potential to bring value later and at least doesn’t add a future liability.

They also may not be looking at this team situation the same as us. We want no good players back so we can tank… if you are just looking player for player it’s bad but it’s not F bad. If you were looking at it as two years of KO for 24M vs 1 year of Bogey for 19.5 then maybe it’s okay to get the worse player?

That’s why it’s a c- in my grade book.

Sure, but show me any potential Bogey trade that makes us better than having Olynyk. Getting worse would have been a byproduct of any asset move for Bojan. Unless we’re saying hanging on to him for longer compromises the tank, to which I’d say that they haven’t sufficiently gutted the team as is, if that’s the goal.

 

[NUMBERICA]

There's a chance the Gobert doesnt produce a single "plus" starter.

At least the Mitchell trade likely has at least one in Markkanen.

Ehh. I think the odds are good in the later part of the decade that we'll start seeing good returns.

 

[gomretat]

Hard for me to grade because I would love to see some combination of the assets we got with our non Rudy trades and see them suit up with Rudy. That would be a season to look forward to. And for anyone who follows the draft, Cy is correct in his assessment of the Rudy deal. It might be great but the odds of getting someone as good as Rudy in return are not great.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Ehh. I think the odds are good in the later part of the decade that we'll start seeing good returns.

I will pray for the downfall of Cleveland everyday.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Ehh. I think the odds are good in the later part of the decade that we'll start seeing good returns.

We will start reaping benefits of the Gobert trade immediately with a pick in the teens this year.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Hard for me to grade because I would love to see some combination of the assets we got with our non Rudy trades and see them suit up with Rudy. That would be a season to look forward to. And for anyone who follows the draft, Cy is correct in his assessment of the Rudy deal. It might be great but the odds of getting someone as good as Rudy in return are not great.

I’ve been thinking about that a lot. The return on Donovan fits better around Gobert than what we had AND got us assets down the road.

 

[Jingled]

We will start reaping benefits of the Gobert trade immediately with a pick in the teens this year.

I really don't see it. Rudy is one of the best regular season players in the league, so he is going to help the Timberwolves win a ton of games. Plus, I think Minnesota is going to take the regular season very seriously, whereas a lot of teams will be more focused on the playoffs and won't care about seeding and will probably rest their guys a lot. I think there's a good chance Minnesota gets the 1 or 2 seed in the west.