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Players that could be had for Memo TPE

sportsnut1232 said:
This is a fantasy. Golden State will not trade their franchise player unless they get a BETTER player in return. Otherwise they will trade Ellis instead.
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It probably is fantasy but getting a guy closer to Ellis status definitely is not.


The beauty/curse of this TPE is the jazz can now offer to take back a bad contract to even up a trade. Say Jazz offer Al Jefferson for Monta Ellis--just so Numberica has a replacement guy to hate of course--and offer to take Biedrins salary as well. Now I'm not saying this trade is good or bad, it's just an example of the flexibility the Jazz now have.

Look for teams with bad contracts that need to get dumped (start the Howard dreams and Bynum screams now).
 
LilStocktonSyndrome said:
I know that they probably won't go for it, but it would be awesome to trade for Steph Curry. They still have that conflict of Curry/Ellis, and we could trade Jefferson (they need a good low-post scorer) and the maybe the TPE for him. We get our PG and outside shooting threat.
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Golden State was hesitant to trade Steph Curry in package for CP3, no way we are getting him.
 
I like Mo Williams and Jose Calderon. Calderon is my dream Jazz Point Guard. He doesn't dominate the ball the way Deron did and kill ball movement. He is the closest thing to stockton in the league. I am not saying he is stockton but his game is more like his in terms of passing vs shooting. Which we need on this team. Somebody who is efficient and takes care of the ball while getting enough shots to all of our players.

https://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7uv5uv2

To get Brandon Knight along with Calderon for only giving up Harris and someone taking Bell's contract we would have to give up the Golden state pick. I know most of you are hesitate for that but I think Brandon Knight could be better than that pick and Calderon is better than Harris so I think its worth it.

I would think the Raptors would have to get that draft pick or the Pistons could have the choice between the Golden state pick or there own pick. The later one goes to the Raptors for taking on Ben Gordon's horrible contract. Raptors like guys like Gordon and they are under the cap and could take on his contract while getting a lottery pick for next year for doing so.

Calderon - Knight - Watson
Miles - Burks
Hayward - Howard - Evans
Favors - Millsap - Evans
Jefferson - Kanter

Thoughts or modifications to make it work?
 
I would consider Calderon an upgrade to Harris. He is just so god awful defensively. I think he could thrive in Utah though.
 
No way Detroit gives up BK just to get Raja and Harris though. Someone would have to include a pick.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
No way Detroit gives up BK just to get Raja and Harris though. Someone would have to include a pick.
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Normally i would think the same but they hate Ben Gordon's contract and I highly doubt they wanna pay him 37 million to play for someone else even if its off the books (Amnestied).

Harris is for sure better than Knight right now. Knight has a ways to go. But getting rid of Ben Gordon's contract is probably the best thing for this franchise right now.
 
I'm just glad Kevin is actively looking.
I'm guessing he has something in the works and that's why they pulled the trigger on Okur.
If they moved Okur without any ideas, I will be much less impressed.
 
Twin Towers said:
Normally i would think the same but they hate Ben Gordon's contract and I highly doubt they wanna pay him 37 million to play for someone else even if its off the books (Amnestied).

Harris is for sure better than Knight right now. Knight has a ways to go. But getting rid of Ben Gordon's contract is probably the best thing for this franchise right now.
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If Detroit is so desperate to be rid of Gordon (and they should), and the Jazz had no interest in him when he was actually producing, why would the Jazz even take into consideration taking him on? The Millers are silly rich, but they're not rich for an NBA ownership group, they can't even amnesty him anyway, and they certainly won't just waive him. Everything surrounding Ben Gordon is that he's just a problem on and off the court besides all of that.

I'd consider using the GS pick to get Knight if it meant no Villanueva or Gordon.
 
GVC said:
God no. Can't run the break, horrid defender. Mediocre.
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On the other hand, he knows how to actually run an offense and hit shots. That combination of skills is somehow not terribly common in the NBA.
 
GVC said:
With a TPE though, the acquired player's salary must be less than the TPE.
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Are you sure about this? From the language I've found, it appears to be saying we could actually take back $100,000 more in salary. I could be missing something, though.

In a non-simultaneous trade, a team can only acquire up to 100% plus $100,000 of the salary it gives up (as opposed to 125% plus $100,000 in a simultaneous trade).
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Ok, so $100k more. That's a pretty insignificant amount, and far less than would be required for some of the proposed trades in this thread.
 
GVC said:
Ok, so $100k more. That's a pretty insignificant amount, and far less than would be required for some of the proposed trades in this thread.
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Yeah, I was just in the process of editing to say the same thing.

I really just wanted to know if you knew something that I was missing.
 
freakazoid said:
Are you sure about this? From the language I've found, it appears to be saying we could actually take back $100,000 more in salary. I could be missing something, though.
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This is how the old CBA operated and I really doubt it has changed. Everything that has come out thus far has been in favor of the owners holding salaries down (with the exception of the minimum team payroll rule). Granting a new provision for owners to aquire more salary in the coming off season would be another loophole the owners would not want, at least the small market owners.
 
espn's nba trade machine says that we still have a $1.8 million dollar TPE from the DWill trade. Can we combine that with the Memo TPE? Does the original list already reflect that? Am I way behind the conversation? Kool.
 
NAOS said:
espn's nba trade machine says that we still have a $1.8 million dollar TPE from the DWill trade. Can we combine that with the Memo TPE? Does the original list already reflect that? Am I way behind the conversation? Kool.
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You are.

You cannot combine the salary from one TPE to any other salary. That includes other players and other TPEs. Also, a TPE cannot absord multiple contract. It's one TPE for one player.

In short, with the $10.8 million TPE, the Jazz can absorb ONE contract at that money or less.
 
Probably the most interesting name on the list you provided was Hedo. Not because I would want him or his contract anywhere near this team, but we all know whoever wants Dwight has to take back Hedo. And for all you who will no doubt clamor that why would we want Dwight for a 1 yr rental, well I'd rent him for a year and give up Al, CJ + GS pick to do it. I'd even throw in a Burks or a Hayward as well.
 
NUMBERICA said:
In short, with the $10.8 million TPE, the Jazz can absorb ONE contract at that money or less.
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I thought you may be able to combine TPEs for a single player making less than the combined total. I knew you couldn't combine a TPE with a player for another player... ok. all makes sense. thanks.
 
margodydek said:
Probably the most interesting name on the list you provided was Hedo. Not because I would want him or his contract anywhere near this team, but we all know whoever wants Dwight has to take back Hedo. And for all you who will no doubt clamor that why would we want Dwight for a 1 yr rental, well I'd rent him for a year and give up Al, CJ + GS pick to do it. I'd even throw in a Burks or a Hayward as well.
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crazy talk
 
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