Duck Rodgers
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Everybody that thinks a Hayes led Utah team would play ball with BYU right now is ****ing clueless, has never played football in their life, and has a giant Pac 12 sticker on their car.
Cougars 2011-12 Football Discussion
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Everybody that thinks a Hayes led Utah team would play ball with BYU right now is ****ing clueless, has never played football in their life, and has a giant Pac 12 sticker on their car.
7StraightIsGreat
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Your team had their shot at Utah, and they came up 44 points short.
Cry harder.
Duck Rodgers
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I just think it's funny that you guys, despite watching plenty of sports that actually have playoffs and prove this out over the long run, think teams are stagnate somehow and neither improve, get worse, or don't have a totally uncharacteristic game every once in awhile during the course of a season. And somehow it's sacrosanct in your world to even bring that up.
I don't care about the Utah game anymore. We'll probably be a top 25 team if we beat TCU. That works for me.
Do you even read posts before you argue?
There was a 4th quarter in that game??? I didn't watch that long. I turned it off looong before then.
I feel like my team just made an incredible end-of-game push to miraculously nab the "participant" award.
Duck Rodgers
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I hate bowl games, but it's always nice to have something to build onto for next year. Hoffman with a stable QB situation will put up huge numbers next year.
Dude is simply a stud. All the pub was on Apo, but Hoffman by far has shown to be better.
By the 6 minute mark in the third quarter the shark had jumped the tank. Not even the ghosts of Young or McMahon would have made a difference at that point.
The Thriller
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Riley is so much better than Hypes it isn't even funny.
Some things that I'd like to see more out of the offense:
1. More no huddle/hurry up offense. They did some of that today. I'd like to see more.
2. More variation and imagination in formation. Try out some fun formations like 3 offensive linemen and the rest spread out. Use some pistol stuff.
3. More screens and play action. Screens to slow down the rush. Play action to create more big plays.
4. Lighter offensive linemen. BYU seems a bit behind on the times. Fat tubbies like T. Brown are too slow. Even D-tackles are lighter and more athletic in today's game. More athletic linemen will allow them to get outside and help block downfield for runners. More often than not, you'd see BYU runners out running their offensive linemen badly. Had the linemen not run slower than cold molasses going uphill, they would have ripped off a big play.
5. Michael Alisa. Just more of him. He's the next Harvey, give him the rock.
Some things that I'd like to see more out of the offense:
1. More no huddle/hurry up offense. They did some of that today. I'd like to see more.
2. More variation and imagination in formation. Try out some fun formations like 3 offensive linemen and the rest spread out. Use some pistol stuff.
3. More screens and play action. Screens to slow down the rush. Play action to create more big plays.
4. Lighter offensive linemen. BYU seems a bit behind on the times. Fat tubbies like T. Brown are too slow. Even D-tackles are lighter and more athletic in today's game. More athletic linemen will allow them to get outside and help block downfield for runners. More often than not, you'd see BYU runners out running their offensive linemen badly. Had the linemen not run slower than cold molasses going uphill, they would have ripped off a big play.
5. Michael Alisa. Just more of him. He's the next Harvey, give him the rock.
The Thriller
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Think Aaron Rogers could have really done that much better with his team losing by... 40 points? or 50?
Come on now. Be a little honest here. The defense knew EXACTLY what the offense had to do at that point. And the offense and the 5 remaining fans in the stadium knew how much the game stunk.
7StraightIsGreat
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I didn't watch the game and I'm also very aware that Riley probably made quite a bit of plays with his legs that Heaps couldn't make, but just by looking at the box score, is going 17-for-40 with 3 TD's and 2 INTS against a mediocre/good football team really something that Jake Heaps couldn't pull off? I think this Tulsa team was probably a little better than the UTEP team BYU faced last year in their bowl, but not by much. Jake Heaps seemed to do just fine against them.
Again, I'm just playing devil's advocate to a certain degree, but I wouldn't go as far as to say Riley is "so much better than Hypes it isn't even funny". In fact, I think in 2012 when BYU faces good teams you'll see Nelson continue to throw for sub 50% completion rate and something worse than a 2 to 1 TD-to-INT ratio. Can Riley make plays with his legs? Obviously. Is he more exciting to watch than Heaps? Certainly. Is he a better leader? You bet your ***, but let's not mistake that with actually being a good QB. Completing 50% of your passes or less on the college level is absolutely horrid. He may be fun to watch, and he may be gritty, but I think he costs you games next season.
CONAN
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We know.
I agree with all of this.