Yes , the Jazz won. They've got 4 guys about 20 years old that look like they'll all end up with careers better than anything Harpring could ever dream of. BUT the Jazz didn't foul enough. The warriors committed more fouls than the Jazz. Clearly, this is a horrible turn of events. The Jazz must always be known as a dirty nasty team that thinks that the way to defend someone is to foul them a lot. It is bad enough that they aren't fouling enough, but to not foul and then win the game???!!!! This could teach the young players bad lessons. it must be stopped.
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Darkwing Duck
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All four guys are going to average more than 17 and 7? Sign me up.
Joe Bagadonuts
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Who peed in your Cheerios this morning?
Darkwing Duck
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So Harpring couldn't dream of having his best two years?
Burks Hayward Kanter and Favors, all show more skills now than Harpring did in his prime. I expect any one of them to have a better career. Of course, one or two might disappoint, but barring injury, as a group they will be better players than Harping. I'm not sure what your point is. Yes, it is possible that some of those players might not be as good in their worst year as Harping was in his best year. Is that your point?
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Darkwing Duck
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That you are selling Harpring short and that you are only looking at his game when he had 90 year old knees.
Which of the five players in question made the all-rookie team (or do you think Kanter and Burks will)?
I don't know what is so difficult about this.
You guys keep wanting to talk about what Harpring did in his best year, and act like he did that every year in his career.
Are you seriously suggesting that Harping could rebound and defend the paint as rookie as well as Favors or Kanter, or pass and handle the ball as well as a rookie as Burks and Hayward?
You guys keep wanting to talk about what Harpring did in his best year, and act like he did that every year in his career.
Are you seriously suggesting that Harping could rebound and defend the paint as rookie as well as Favors or Kanter, or pass and handle the ball as well as a rookie as Burks and Hayward?
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Harp was in the mold of a Stockton, Malon, and Horny. They played hard, and competed hard. That kind of play isn't a skill it's an attitude. It's the attitude the Jazz of the 90's had it's the attitude the bad boy Pistons had, it's winning basketball. It's why I respected Harpring and loved watching him play.
I don't think Harpring is saying the jazz should foul just to foul, but when they do foul make sure it's not just a love tap. Most players thought twice about driving through the paint against the bad boy Pistons because they new that if they did they were going to have there *** handed to them. I think this team needs to be a little dirty so they can get that edge the 90's Jazz had and the bad boys pistons.
the teams a reputation for being dirty kept 2 of the greatest players of all time at a disadvantage in the playoffs for their entire careers, hence the all time steals and assist leader , and 2nd leading all time scorer managed to play their entire careers without ONE SINGLE title.
The league is less friendly to dirty play than it used to be. the Jazz will NEVER HAVE A CHANCE of going far in the playoffs if they play like Harping wants them to play, and have the reputation Harpring wants them to have. There are no Bad Boy Pistons in the league now.
The league is less friendly to dirty play than it used to be. the Jazz will NEVER HAVE A CHANCE of going far in the playoffs if they play like Harping wants them to play, and have the reputation Harpring wants them to have. There are no Bad Boy Pistons in the league now.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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What are you 10yrs. old. Harp doesn't have the height, and didnt play the same position as Favors and Kanter. As far as Burks and Hayward go, they have a completely different style of play, as apposed to Harpring's style, which was as a banging punishing sf who did a lot of posting up and moving without the ball on the perimeter hitting the curl Jumper. Harpring in his prime was a very good player.
Gyp Rosetti
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They all may end up with better careers but to say they all show "more skills" than him is ludicrous. Harp was a very, very good player in his prime and plenty skilled. Moreso than any of the four young guys you mentioned at least.
Playing hard is one thing, fouling on purpose is a lazy way to make up for bad defense. Trying to hurt people when you foul them, when you already have a reputation for that, is just a way to be sure that your team will ALWAYS get the short end of the stick from the refs in any future playoffs.
Ellipse
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What is the point of knocking Harpring? The guy was a damn good player for the Jazz. He was always willing to sacrifice his body by diving to the floor or flying into the seats for loose balls. The only problem the Jazz had with him is that his last contract was one year too long, but I looked at it as Larry Miller's way of rewarding a loyal, scrappy player who gave his all for the good of the team.
That said, I wish he could just shut the hell up for a few minutes each broadcast. Silence is underrated.
That said, I wish he could just shut the hell up for a few minutes each broadcast. Silence is underrated.
SojoDave
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I think you went berserk when Harp said that Jazz should foul more. I think he was saying is that the Jazz should play tough inside, not give up easy layups, and send message fouls if necessary. Harpring was a stud player and had a great career. I think you need to chill out on what broadcasters are saying.