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2024 NBA Draft Mega Thread

Saint Cy of JFC said:
He's not a below average shooter. If anything he is exactly average. Career 35% from 3 in 4 years and career 44% in the playoffs through 21 games. If that's below average then that's insane. Let's have some intellectual honesty here. I get these arent difficult 3's, but he knocks them down at a rate that is not "below average".
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He was well below league average this season. His career percentage is below league average. He's had one season in 4 years where he's been above league average. He shoots a low volume and only takes high quality 3's. Don't play the "intellectual honesty" card when it's a fact that he is below average.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I dont do draft day predictions. I give out facts on players and use those facts to best guess at career outcomes. I have plenty of draft takes. I just dont do sensationalism and faux-insider knowledge takes like "I think the Jazz will seriously consider Kyshawn George at 10"

Sorry if you are just getting sensitive for someone calling out a terrible take.
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Let's see where Kyshawn George gets drafted and who has the terrible take. Sarah Todd named Reed Sheppard and Kyshawn George as two players the Jazz like in the 1st round. Jazz like players with length, shooting and creation. George checks those boxes, if not much else.
 
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Saint Cy of JFC said:
Dadiet is 19 months younger than KyShawn George.

If the Jazz drafted George over Dadiet it would be a display of gross incompetence.
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Dadiet is a 3pt shooter with length, average athleticism and some ability to attack close-outs. George has real playmaking. He can create for himself and others at 6'8", as well as being able to shoot out to 29 feet. Different player type.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
KyShawn George scored over 20 once all season and it had to happen in a OT game.

The moment he gets drafted he's going to be a bottom 5th percentile athlete. He's not a damn lottery pick and he's probably going to bust out of the NBA within 3 years.

He;s not a young Freshman either! He turns 21 in December!

This reminds me of your obsession with Dalen Terry, a guy who is going to be out of the NBA once his rookie deal is over.
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Who?!?!
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
Dadiet is a 3pt shooter with length, average athleticism and some ability to attack close-outs. George has real playmaking. He can create for himself and others at 6'8", as well as being able to shoot out to 29 feet. Different player type.
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KyShawn had a higher turnover percentage than assist percentage. Please stop doing this BS were you keep calling guys playmakers who arent playmakers. You parroted the same "Buzelis is a point forward" nonsense earlier in the thread. It's just not correct. KyShawn isnt creating jack **** at the NBA level because he cant get downhill and he can't handle at a NBA level.

And Dadiet was a 18 year who contributed at a pro level and has some of the best, if not the best, left-hand finishing in the class. KyShawn was having his minutes fluctuate on a terrible Miami team because he has terrible basketball IQ and effort. And as I just showed, Dadiet is more than just a 3pt shooter. He's the best OTD wing in the class.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
Let's see where Kyshawn George gets drafted and who has the terrible take. Sarah Todd named Reed Sheppard and Kyshawn George as two players the Jazz like in the 1st round. Jazz like players with length, shooting and creation. George checks those boxes, if not much else.
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At #10 Reed would be a great choice if available (won't be) and at #29 George would be a great choice too (might be available).
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
KyShawn had a higher turnover percentage than assist percentage. Please stop doing this BS were you keep calling guys playmakers who arent playmakers. You parroted the same "Buzelis is a point forward" nonsense earlier in the thread. It's just not correct. KyShawn isnt creating jack **** at the NBA level because he cant get downhill and he can't handle at a NBA level.

And Dadiet was a 18 year who contributed at a pro level and has some of the best, if not the best, left-hand finishing in the class. KyShawn was having his minutes fluctuate on a terrible Miami team because he has terrible basketball IQ and effort.
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Buzelis is a connector who can process and make reads. He's likely a secondary creator, rather than a 'point forward.' That's honestly his main appeal right now, given his other limitations.

Miami was a pretty flawed team with limited shooting and limited size inside. I wouldn't obsess about his A:TO ratio in that context. You can see some of George's playmaking reps starting at 7:17. I like Dadiet as a late-1st, or early 2nd-rd prospect, but you won't see him handling the ball and making these plays.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRrxgkrrIN4&t=626s
 
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Ferguson_Mellochill said:
Buzelis is a connector who can process and make reads. He's likely a secondary creator, rather than a 'point forward.' That's honestly his main appeal right now, given his other limitations.

Miami was a pretty flawed team with limited shooting and limited size inside. I wouldn't obsess about his A:TO ratio in that context. You can see some of George's playmaking reps starting at 7:17. I like Dadiet as a late-1st, or early 2nd-rd prospect, but you won't see him handling the ball and making these plays.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRrxgkrrIN4&t=626s
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The film on Buzelis shows he can't make reads and is often blind to passes. He might want to be a passer, but he can't really dribble against pressure and because of that he cant keep his head up to find teammates.
 
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At #10 Reed would be a great choice if available (won't be) and at #29 George would be a great choice too (might be available).
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I don't think Reed makes it to 10, and I don't think George makes it to 29. On Spence Checkets' show, Sarah Todd was asked to give a few names of guys the Jazz like for the #10 pick, and she mentioned Sheppard and George. Both of those make sense given their ability to shoot from deep and playmake.
 
Also to anyone concerned they haven't seen a big name workout yet, top prospect typically don't start working out til later since they have less teams to visit
 
Locke hates Buzelis… guaranteed he is there at 10.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
KyShawn had a higher turnover percentage than assist percentage. Please stop doing this BS were you keep calling guys playmakers who arent playmakers. You parroted the same "Buzelis is a point forward" nonsense earlier in the thread. It's just not correct. KyShawn isnt creating jack **** at the NBA level because he cant get downhill and he can't handle at a NBA level.
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George's A:TO ratio is a positive 1.5. It's not great, but it's not negative.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
College stars at blue bloods just have such high incentives to stay now. I thought it was a great decision. He has a chance to 3peat and make crazy NIL money.

Honestly I think most guys should stay now unless they are clear NBA players who can make a rotation within 2 years. At the end of the day the individual can only truly know if they are ready or not, but I think dudes like Cam Christie and Furphy going pro is kind of insane as neither are all that close to being NBA rotation players.
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yeah i've seen Furphy here in person. He might be good in a few years but he's nowhere near physically ready to play in the NBA yet. Was really surprised to see him declare
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
If the Jazz can't move up for someone they really like, and no one obvious falls, I think they're going to seriously consider Kyshawn George at #10. He's long, he makes some plays with his passing and he can shoot the ball. His lack of explosion results in him not being able to beat defenders, and he rarely gets to the rim, so he'll probably be rendered a floor spacer and complementary player in the mold of a Joe Ingles. However, he still fits the Jazz potentially as a cog who defends on the perimeter, moves the ball and makes open shots.

Ron Holland would give the Jazz some defensive playmaking and some rim finishing, but the lack of shooting is pretty glaring.
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Seems like a jazz thing to do. Draft a guy expected to be available with their later two picks but draft him at 10. Lol seems about right. @Ferguson_Mellochill I believe you have cracked the code. Lol
 
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