2024 NBA Draft Mega Thread
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Injury, his wingspan was reported as 7' and it measured like 6-6, and everyone heard how weird his voice is and bailed.
For me, it’s a worry that he may be injury prone and not wanting to relive Dante Exum. But I see the logic of sitting at 10 and taking him.
Freak out about going from having great wingspan to T-Rex. Bad knee (multiplies concerns about defense/athleticism).
Good points. I worry less about Carter's shooting because his volume was so high and the difficulty level of the shots he took was high. Actually, one legitimate concern with him would be shot selection. I worry less about Carter's age because of his length and athleticism. I believe, but could be wrong, that most older guys fail in the NBA because of length and athleticism.
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I have been flip-flopping on Topic for the past month. His shooting scares me. His medical history scares the poop out of me. His knee could be a blessing in disguise as it will force him into shooting for a while and not allow him to practice attacking the rim. I have seen players improve their shooting with knee injuries. It would also be a future pick as he probably would not see playing time next year.
I am not as concerned about his arm length because if his neck were a normal length he would probably have measured 6-4 and with a 6-6 wingspan that is just normal.
His defense is also a major concern.
So.. nothing about his actual game/play. I understand the worries about his injury, but the intense dislike of a potential pick of Topic seems kind of over the top to me..
seattlejazzfan
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those are all fair counterpoints, and reasons i'd be fine, even happy with him at 10.
Honestly, I think people would just think it's boring because he's going to miss a year. There are legitimate health concerns with that of course, but all of a sudden all these "concerns" came out that are completely unrelated to his wingspan or health.
seattlejazzfan
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no. his TS% was 57.6%. His FT% was 76%.
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TheStormofWar
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Memphis is reportedly trying to move up for Clingan, Klingon, or whomever. Might be smoke though.
Yeah... I mean... there probably would be players at 10 I would us rather pick than Topic, but if we did pick Topic I'd be good with it. IMO this draft is such a crapshoot that I don't see why I should have super strong opinions on any of those players. I can see pretty much any of them failing spectacularly.
I don't think I've moved him too much, but never had him super high. I really wanted to see him against better competition, but it never really happened. I always worried when watching his game film that the competition he was playing against looked bad.
One of my last pre-draft takes - I don't feel confident enough in any of the players of this draft either way. Thus... even though I do have my preferences, I think the extra shots the additional picks provide are more valuable than the perceived jump in value between drafting at 10 or at 5 in this specific draft. In other words - I would prefer we don't trade up in the draft. I think I'd be OK with pretty much anybody at 10. There are a few I'd be more excited about(Castle, Carter, Edey... Salaun?), but I can see the case for drafting pretty much anybody from the players projected in the lottery right now.
seattlejazzfan
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this sums up how how feel about trading up. you trade up, you trade up and lose an asset or assets, for a player with significant warts who may very well be worse than the guy you draft at 10.
Yeah...he didn't move much for me but I didn't have him in top 3 range. Bumped him a tier down because knee surgeries are not great for guy whose main skill is getting to the rim/finishing at the rim, but for the most part the concerns always existed. Still think he's not a terrible at 10, I can see how it's anticlimactic to draft someone who won't play his first season though.
I really uninspiring draft IMO. I really like Shep, but even then his most likely scenario is just a good player. There were like 6-8 guys in last year's draft that I think would be in the conversation for #1 this year and several that would be no doubt #1. Heck, I think you could make some kind of argument for Hendricks (as a prospect) over Risacher.
This was a hot take of mine earlier in the pre-draft season... not sure if it was you or someone else I was talking with about this exact thing - Taylor Hendricks looked like a better prospect last year than Risacher. Now, maybe Risacher did enough in the playoffs to edge it out at the end... but either way I don't think the difference is huge.
Just checked fr and am seeing 55.1. The Ringer was what I was referencing so they need to update.
seattlejazzfan
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here. the official gleague stats -
Ronald Holland II
Ronald Holland II Official NBA G League Stats, Player Logs, Boxscores, Shotcharts and Videos
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either way a far cry from the 47%. listed by the ringer. they really should fix that. it goes from being horrible to average and even impressive for a player as young as Holland who is young, even for a OAD. almost a full year younger than Buzelis, for example.