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I'm ok with Rivers if he is our 2nd pick, meaning we don't make the playoffs. I want a legitimate SF though.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
I'm ok with Rivers if he is our 2nd pick, meaning we don't make the playoffs. I want a legitimate SF though.
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I totally agree with you. What I am trying to say is add Miller or a legit SF, either through the draft or trades and then add Rivers, I can see the Jazz contending very soon.
 
I do not follow college at all. What do you guys think the best shooting SF in the draft is? I think that is exactly what the Jazz need. A SF that can stretch the floor.
 
orangello said:
If the Jazz have all three of those guys and can still draft Miller, then the Jazz just set themselves up to be better than OKC, Chicago and any other young up and coming team.
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Seriously...all those guys plus Favors, Kanter, and hopefully still Millsap down low. Wow.
 
And it's very likely we could actually get Rivers, even with the last pick in the lottery (I still say the Jazz miss the playoffs).
 
Gojazz79 said:
I do not follow college at all. What do you guys think the best shooting SF in the draft is? I think that is exactly what the Jazz need. A SF that can stretch the floor.
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There's question marks concerning all of them, but Harrison Barnes, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, and Quincy Miller could all be very good pros.
 
@PKM

Have you heard anything concerning Rivers' ability to play PG in the NBA? Do scouts/GM's see it as an actual possibility?

Also, do you know if that's something Rivers would even want to do?
 
spycam1 said:
@PKM

Have you heard anything concerning Rivers' ability to play PG in the NBA? Do scouts/GM's see it as an actual possibility?

Also, do you know if that's something Rivers would even want to do?
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There's a lot of talk and positive speculation. There are NBA teams that are scouting him ONLY as a PG. I think Rivers is willing, but he'll certainly be a shooting PG, rather than a pure pass-first .. and you'd want him that way.
 
Gojazz79 said:
I do not follow college at all. What do you guys think the best shooting SF in the draft is? I think that is exactly what the Jazz need. A SF that can stretch the floor.
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For what you described, Barnes, QMiller, Gilchrist in that order.
 
spycam1 said:
And it's very likely we could actually get Rivers, even with the last pick in the lottery (I still say the Jazz miss the playoffs).
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I still have that nagging feeling in the back of my mind. Every time I see the Jazz play well I just want to believe that it will continue through the entire season but then pertinent information like home games and kep players not playing for the competition etc come to mind.
 
orangello said:
I still have that nagging feeling in the back of my mind. Every time I see the Jazz play well I just want to believe that it will continue through the entire season but then pertinent information like home games and kep players not playing for the competition etc come to mind.
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Exactly. We have a good record atm, but as Charles Barkley recently said, we're not as good as our record. Our wins have come in a combination of a plethora of home games, and the opposing team's best player being injured. Plus, we've managed to stay relatively healthy thus far, but it would be a bit silly to think that will continue, even in a normal season, let alone a condensed 66 game schedule.

Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy with the success of this team. But it's not hard (at all) to make the argument that we won't be able to continue winning at this rate.
 
spycam1 said:
Exactly. We have a good record atm, but as Charles Barkley recently said, we're not as good as our record. Our wins have come in a combination of a plethora of home games, and the opposing team's best player being injured. Plus, we've managed to stay relatively healthy thus far, but it would be a bit silly to think that will continue, even in a normal season, let alone a condensed 66 game schedule.

Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy with the success of this team. But it's not hard (at all) to make the argument that we won't be able to continue winning at this rate.
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Hopefully other fans can see this too.
 
I wonder if the Jazz drafted Robbie Hummel late in the second round if Hayward would be work harder to show everyone that he is by far the better prospect.
 
orangello said:
That is my point. If you have two or three players on the floor that have good handles and can pass the ball, do you need a true PG? Hayward, Burks and Rivers have above average handles for their positions and they can all pass the ball (when they want to) efficiently as well. Do you need a true PG on the floor at that point? I know that we are all Jazz fans and we crave a pure, elite PG, but this team can be successful without one.

Harris has good handles. He can pass. The problem with Harris is that he doesn't run the system. I honestly believe that Hayward, Burks and Rivers can run the system effectively.
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As long as the Jazz can defend opposing PGs and as long as they have someone who is quick and skilled enough to run the offense without exhausting themselves, they can get by without a pure PG. Billups was always more of a combo, as was Sam Cassel, Penny Hardaway, etc. But it's nice if you've got someone who can really initiate and run plays with passing and driving ability. In today's game though, the PG needs to be a scoring threat and a threat to drive as well as a passer. I think Burks can guard PGs, but he has an off-the-ball mentality.
 
Catchall said:
If you want to stretch the floor, you need to throw Terrence Ross into that discussion.
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This is only an opinion, many will disagree, but I see Ross as a SG much more than SF. Has too little size/strength, imo, for the ideal SF spot.
 
PKM said:
This is only an opinion, many will disagree, but I see Ross as a SG much more than SF. Has too little size/strength, imo, for the ideal SF spot.
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From what little I've seen, I agree. Let's all remember that even Wesley Matthews was a SF in the NCAA.
 
I was just drooling with the thought of a young core like this

Rivers
Burks
Hayward, q miller
Millsap, Evans
Favors, kanter

Yes millsap is stll young maybe grab a second round pg like machado, Taylor etc
 
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