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For those of you BYU pukes cheering Jimmer...

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Hanginthere

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Sorry, but you're either Jazz fans or you're not...

And any fan in that building cheering when Jimmer does something good that is not a Sacramento Kings fan is NOT a true Jazz fan in my eyes...

I hate this states fans... Half of them are clueless and the other half are worse...

And yes, it is due to the LDS culture... A baseless cult, with a rocky foundation at best...

There I said it...

Deal with it!
 
Harsh! I find it odd that one person tells another person who and what kind of fan they should be. I suppose you don't like the LDS church because it tells people how to think and be. And you are trying to do the same. There, I said it. ;)
 
Hanginthere said:
Sorry, but you're either Jazz fans or you're not...

And any fan in that building cheering when Jimmer does something good that is not a Sacramento Kings fan is NOT a true Jazz fan in my eyes...

I hate this states fans... Half of them are clueless and the other half are worse...

And yes, it is due to the LDS culture... A baseless cult, with a rocky foundation at best...

There I said it...

Deal with it!
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So this is an internet message board thread for people currently at the NBA game in question?
 
Hanginthere said:
Sorry, but you're either Jazz fans or you're not...

And any fan in that building cheering when Jimmer does something good that is not a Sacramento Kings fan is NOT a true Jazz fan in my eyes...

I hate this states fans... Half of them are clueless and the other half are worse...

And yes, it is due to the LDS culture... A baseless cult, with a rocky foundation at best...

There I said it...

Deal with it!
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So the puke U of U fans who cheered Tom Chambers back in the day weren't true Jazz fans? And the ones who currently cheer for Andre Miller or Andrew Bogut (when he's healthy) are also puke fans? Does the same hold true for cheering for ex-Jazz players to do well when they come back to Utah, but also cheering for their new teams to lose, or is that not allowed? I thought we weren't supposed to boo Deron, Okur, Boozer, etc. Is polite applause ok during the player introductions? Or maybe this is a Jimmer-only rule. Sounds like someone has a little bit of pe..., I mean point guard envy. Perhaps because your own umm, basketballs are a little small?
 
GlassEater said:
So the puke U of U fans who cheered Tom Chambers back in the day weren't true Jazz fans? And the ones who currently cheer for Andre Miller or Andrew Bogut (when he's healthy) are also puke fans? Does the same hold true for cheering for ex-Jazz players to do well when they come back to Utah, but also cheering for their new teams to lose, or is that not allowed? I thought we weren't supposed to boo Deron, Okur, Boozer, etc. Is polite applause ok during the player introductions? Or maybe this is a Jimmer-only rule. Sounds like someone has a little bit of pe..., I mean point guard envy. Perhaps because your own umm, basketballs are a little small?
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Please don't try and confuse us with sound logic.
 
JazzGal said:
Harsh! I find it odd that one person tells another person who and what kind of fan they should be. I suppose you don't like the LDS church because it tells people how to think and be. And you are trying to do the same. There, I said it. ;)
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I really wasn't telling anybody what to do, I just think it's a joke... And you're right about the LDS church... It's "Leave your brain at the door" when you walk in those doors...

At least my pastor encourages me to "question" things within my own faith... You do it in a Mormon church, and you will probably find yourself excommunicated... To me, the proof is in the pudding...
 
Bodhi said:
So this is an internet message board thread for people currently at the NBA game in question?
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Or otherwise... If you cheer for him against "your team"... Then call yourself a casual fan that cheers for certain players, I will accept that... But I won't accept you as a Jazz fan because you're not... JMO

MO
 
Hanginthere said:
And yes, it is due to the LDS culture... A baseless cult, with a rocky foundation at best...

There I said it...

Deal with it!
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Thanks for the compliment re: the LDS church. As Jesus said in the Bible, the foundation of a church should be built upon the rocks, not upon the sand.
[h=3]Matthew 7:24-27[/h]King James Version (KJV)


[SUP]24[/SUP]Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
[SUP]25[/SUP]And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
[SUP]26[/SUP]And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: [SUP]27[/SUP]And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
 
GlassEater said:
So the puke U of U fans who cheered Tom Chambers back in the day weren't true Jazz fans? And the ones who currently cheer for Andre Miller or Andrew Bogut (when he's healthy) are also puke fans? Does the same hold true for cheering for ex-Jazz players to do well when they come back to Utah, but also cheering for their new teams to lose, or is that not allowed? I thought we weren't supposed to boo Deron, Okur, Boozer, etc. Is polite applause ok during the player introductions? Or maybe this is a Jimmer-only rule. Sounds like someone has a little bit of pe..., I mean point guard envy. Perhaps because your own umm, basketballs are a little small?
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No... Believe it or not, even though my post pretty much slandered the LDS faith, I didn't agree with that either... But those are Utah fans as a whole, you really don't see that from other fans of other teams in other states...
 
The Black Swordsman said:
Don't worry this will only go on for 3-4 more years before Jimmer loses a spot on a team.
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Even I'm not stupid enough to say that this kid doesn't have talent, because IMO he has the ability and the game to be scary good...

I never said the kid sucked... I'm just saying cheer for your team if you're a fan of that team... That's all...
 
Hanginthere said:
I really wasn't telling anybody what to do, I just think it's a joke... And you're right about the LDS church... It's "Leave your brain at the door" when you walk in those doors...

At least my pastor encourages me to "question" things within my own faith... You do it in a Mormon church, and you will probably find yourself excommunicated... To me, the proof is in the pudding...
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BTW, you're dead wrong about questioning things re: your own faith. I question a lot; I'm still a member in good standing. Now I think any time you "break" one of the major commandments (such as adultery, violent crimes, etc.), you'll find any pastor, priest, father or bishop - in whatever religion - calling you to repentance. That is a biblical concept, not one that is unique to the LDS church.
 
GlassEater said:
BTW, you're dead wrong about questioning things re: your own faith. I question a lot; I'm still a member in good standing. Now I think any time you "break" one of the major commandments (such as adultery, violent crimes, etc.), you'll find any pastor, priest, father or bishop - in whatever religion - calling you to repentance. That is a biblical concept, not one that is unique to the LDS church.
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I'm not talking about repentance for sin which is something we all should do... I'm talking about questioning the doctrines of your own church so that "you will not be fooled"... God encourages that and so does a good pastor...

JMO
 
Hanginthere said:
No... Believe it or not, even though my post pretty much slandered the LDS faith, I didn't agree with that either... But those are Utah fans as a whole, you really don't see that from other fans of other teams in other states...
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Really? Now I understand Cleveland fans will never cheer for LeBron. But you don't think fans root for players who left their team via an unsolicited trade. Or they don't welcome an uber-popular native son back in the area where he played college basketball? Did you watch the Jazz @ Chicago game the year after we drafted Deron?

Yes, your bias is definitely anti-LDS and I think that's sad. Do you have the same disdain for Notre Dame players? After all, their religion teaches them to respect and follow priests without question. And we all know of the abuse epidemic that rocked that religion. Or how about Jewish players. Do you hold the same disdain for Omri Casspi and Jordan Farmar? Any other religions or belief systems...Muslims? Seventh-Day Adventists? Buddhists?
 
Hanginthere said:
Sorry, but you're either Jazz fans or you're not...

And any fan in that building cheering when Jimmer does something good that is not a Sacramento Kings fan is NOT a true Jazz fan in my eyes...

I hate this states fans... Half of them are clueless and the other half are worse...

And yes, it is due to the LDS culture... A baseless cult, with a rocky foundation at best...

There I said it...

Deal with it!
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I too believe it is bad taste to cheer a player during the game that is not on your team. However, the complexity of a human being is much more dynamic than you make it out to be. Simplicity makes for appeal to emotion which equals power and possibly virulent ideology. Having an educated and reasonable conversation about philosophy or religion is healthy, but not simplifying the human condition.
 
Hanginthere said:
I'm not talking about repentance for sin which is something we all should do... I'm talking about questioning the doctrines of your own church so that "you will not be fooled"... God encourages that and so does a good pastor...

JMO
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Again, I ask you which beliefs you cannot question in the LDS Church. I have never been told to ignore my doubts. In fact, I've been encouraged to learn truths from a variety of books and sources and study things out in my mind. Truth is light; the Glory of God is Intelligence. The trick is to determine what "truths" are absolute and which ones are just theories based upon our current levels of understanding (such as when everyone KNEW the earth was flat and the sun revolved around the earth). Now the principle of faith is universal across all Christian religions. Some things we do accept, Do you absolutely know there is a God? Do you know Jesus is your Savior and paid for your sins? I don't. I've never seen or spoken to them. Should I honor my father and mother? Let's go one higher...why not commit adultery if I'm discreet and use protection? Many things - large and small - we accept on faith. Some behavioral standards have been codified into laws in our society; some have not.
 
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