I don't put attention there because it is already illegal. If the father of a child takes action to end the life of that child while it is in the womb of the mother, especially when the mother wants to keep the baby, that father will spend a big chunk of his life in prison for the crime of causing the child to lose its life. I'm thinking mothers should be treated the same as fathers. If either of them set about intentionally killing their child, they should go to prison.
Exactly. You have no problem with a father telling a mother that he thinks they should get an abortion and paying for the abortion etc.
Where did you get that idea from? I think abortion of a healthy child should be a crime, and what you described is conspiracy to commit the crime which is every bit as punishable as the crime committed. If anything, in your hypothetical, the father will face the harsher punishment due to being biologically male. .
Why dont you ever bring up the father's role in abortion then?Where did you get that idea from? I think abortion of a healthy child should be a crime, and what you described is conspiracy to commit the crime which is every bit as punishable as the crime committed. If anything, in your hypothetical, the father will face the harsher punishment due to being biologically male. .
Because it is not about the parents doing the killing. It is about the child being killed. I lend the strength of my voice to the plight of those not powerful enough to speak for themselves. Snuffing those lives out is a horror, and those who support it find it too easy to pretend they don't exist at all.
So why always use the noun "women" when you discuss abortion if it's not about the parents. Did you know that the woman is in fact one of the parents?
Presidents don't write laws. I really don't care very much about every single position a Presidential candidate takes on policy or law. I'm pretty sure what your response to this will be, but what I'm concerned about is project 2025 because that is the playbook drafted for the MAGA movement. Trump can claim ignorance all he wants, I don't care if he knew about it or not. He's not a great thinker, so the people who wrote it wouldn't have benefitted from his incoherent input. Nonetheless, they wrote it for him, for his potential administration. It is the MAGA wish list along with operating instructions to get the U.S. there. If Trump gets into office LGBTQ people will be harmed. Women will lose reproductive rights more than they already have. Not by Presidential dictate, but by MAGA legislators passing ****** laws at both the federal and state level.Both candidates in the race are pro-choice. Trump is also pro-life as in he personally abhors abortion, but he wants the woman's right to choose set at 20 weeks.
“I am very pro-choice. I hate the concept of abortion. ... I just believe in choice. Again, it may be a little bit of a New York background, because there is some different attitude in some different parts of the country. ... I was raised in New York and grew up and worked and everything else in New York City. But I am strongly pro-choice."
-Donald Trump
President Trump is pushing for a 20-week abortion ban
The president has called on the Senate to vote on the measure, which has already passed the House, and send it to his desk for signature into law.www.yahoo.com
When Florida was pushing their 6-week abortion ban, Trump was very public about his opinion that 6-weeks was too short and that women should have more weeks.
“There has to be more time . . . I want more weeks.”
-Donald Trump
Trump Becomes a Pro-Choice Champion… for Florida’s Abortion Rights Movement
The ex-president is popping up on mailers and in digital ads, sponsored by the group looking to enshrine abortion rights into Florida’s constitution.www.thebulwark.com
In the linked video, the women were at 12 weeks and 18 weeks when the fetal defects were discovered. Both would have been able to get abortions if Trump had his way. Trump's position is actually more liberal than most of Europe, but we are where we are because many on the left want no restriction on abortion, including birth being a limit on abortion. Most scoff and say democrats don't want that, but current VP candidate Tim Walz changed the laws of his state to allow it and since becoming governor there have been eight post-birth killings in his state.
Kamala Harris has been asked directly multiple times about any limits she would accept on abortion and she has refused to enumerate any restrictions. So long as there are a contingent pushing for the right of mothers to kill their children even after birth, there are going to be those on the opposite side pushing to outlaw abortion entirely. Trump's position is the compromise position. The Harris / Walz position is what makes compromise impossible. Now we get videos of women who knew about fetal defects earlier than 20 weeks used as fodder to push for allowing mothers to kill perfectly healthy children without restriction.
I'd say that while I disagree some of your points of view, I applaud your thought process at choosing whom to support. I feel that implementing this policy or that policy and the effects of those actions is all perfectly valid for choosing who you want to see in the position of power. I feel too many people get caught up in the personal details that just don't matter to the type of job someone will do if put into the position of responsibility.
I don't. You do.
Watch this: mothers intentionally killing off their healthy children should be made as illegal as intentionally killing anyone else.
You nailed it
I'm fine with being considered misogynist so long as we can find agreement on the first three sentences of your post.
AI in particular is seeped in the Alpha/manosphere/incel ideology. If you read "Alpha/manosphere/incel" and had no idea what I was talking about, well, you're lucky. And you're damn right I capitalized "Alpha" but none of the rest! Because that's just how masculine I am. Sorry, that's just an attempt at giving the uninitiated a sneak peak into the universe of alpha culture. I mean Salt Lake City was the host of Alpha Con 2022, the first Alpha con, so like the Alpha of Alpha cons.
