The Biden Administration and All Things Politics

[fishonjazz]

Read the post, directed at me. Why is he bringing it up? Trying to call me MAGA and mischaracterizing me again. So I have to lay out the proof. Im not sitting here taking the BS thrown at me.

Here is the post: Funny thing is you go after what many of us already believe, that she isn't a great candidate. Very few people here believe she is a good candidate. But what you also did was, maybe inadvertently, defend and espouse Trump-ian politics in your denigration of Harris. That's where your arguments fell apart. Again NONE OF US LIKE HARRIS, SHE'S ABOUT THE WORST OPTION THEY COULD HAVE COME UP WITH, but she's a ****ing damn sight better than Trump.

He is saying that you think Kamala sucks. We think she sucks.
But what you do is just post about Kamala sucking when you come around and barely mention trump sucking which is kind of inadvertently defending trump.

I agree.

Like you just said that trump is By Far the worse candidate. If you truly believe that then I should be able to pull up say, 50 of your posts and find that 40 of them are criticizing trump and 10 are criticizing Harris. Or something with that kind of ratio.

Instead I believe it to be the opposite.
Why is that? If you think trump is the worse candidate by far like you say you do then act like it.

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[LogGrad98]

My coworker put on a video at work of trump being interviewed by bloomberg. Its over an hour long and I have listened to a good chunk of it just being in/around the room its being played in. You would think that there is no one interviewing him. Its just trump talking. Rambling. Most of it makes no sense and is irrelevant to anything. So much of what he says is structured like this "I know a guy who makes cars. He has a huge factory. He makes great cars. One time he told me that china is so hard to compete against. He tells me 'sir, my cars aren't the same quality as china's and so im going out of business. Is there anything you can do to help me' then he started to cry. I tell him I can charge a tariff on china and save your company. 'He tells me, thank you sir. I appreciate everything you do for me'. No one can make deals like me" and then rambles on to the next word salad. He talks about how he knows a lot of people in the audience and crap. I believe The Thriller calls it "flooding the zone" or something. He simply never stops bull ********.
This is the video.

trump bloomberg interview - Google Search

Yeah breakdowns of that video are amazing. His crazy on full display. How anyone could watch even a few minutes of that and still think he's sane and capable is beyond me. Cult is the right word for his followers, no doubt.

 

[LogGrad98]

Here is the post: Funny thing is you go after what many of us already believe, that she isn't a great candidate. Very few people here believe she is a good candidate. But what you also did was, maybe inadvertently, defend and espouse Trump-ian politics in your denigration of Harris. That's where your arguments fell apart. Again NONE OF US LIKE HARRIS, SHE'S ABOUT THE WORST OPTION THEY COULD HAVE COME UP WITH, but she's a ****ing damn sight better than Trump.

He is saying that you think Kamala sucks. We think she sucks.
But what you do is just post about Kamala sucking when you come around and barely mention trump sucking which is kind of inadvertently defending trump.

I agree.

Like you just said that trump is By Far the worse candidate. If you truly believe that then I should be able to pull up say, 50 of your posts and find that 40 of them are criticizing trump and 10 are criticizing Harris. Or something with that kind of ratio.

Instead I believe it to be the opposite.
Why is that? If you think trump is the worse candidate by far like you say you do then act like it.

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Better said than I could have said it for sure.

 

[Bucknutz]

Here is the post: Funny thing is you go after what many of us already believe, that she isn't a great candidate. Very few people here believe she is a good candidate. But what you also did was, maybe inadvertently, defend and espouse Trump-ian politics in your denigration of Harris. That's where your arguments fell apart. Again NONE OF US LIKE HARRIS, SHE'S ABOUT THE WORST OPTION THEY COULD HAVE COME UP WITH, but she's a ****ing damn sight better than Trump.

You going to add the other part in here or should I?

"And that's where it diverges. You prefer a known racist and misogynist and convicted felon and adjudicated rapist and corporate and billionaire shill and continual proven liar and insurrectionist and pretty obvious fascist to Harris. We don't. So yeah, your arguments fall ****ing flat. Hate her all you want, point out all the flaws, and none of them come close to saying "I'll be a dictator on day one", et al. They just don't. Unless you are fine with dictator trump and his racist misogynist fascist policies. And it seems you are."

Context matters FISH...

He is saying that you think Kamala sucks. We think she sucks.
But what you do is just post about Kamala sucking when you come around and barely mention trump sucking which is kind of inadvertently defending trump.

I agree.

Let me ask you, why would I need to add on to the Trump hate in this forum? What will it do? Literally almost all the posters flood the forum with Trump hate, all day, everything he does, everything he says, everything he tweets. ALL DAY. What's the point? There is nothing new coming from this, it's just the same old hit pieces and the same old terms used towards him. What do I add to this? Nothing. Literally nothing. I don't want to be apart of the echo chamber. It's the reason why people who have different views can't have an honest debate. Someone brings up a different opinion, 8 posters "You're a troll, you're maga, why dont you hate Trump as much as us? Block him, he was a troll and it's just a waste of time to talk to him about anything!"

Trump has been fully debated out. Completely. There is nothing more to say about him. Literally nothing. So instead, I choose to just ignore him. I don't want to bring up trump ever. You guys are the ones that continuously do. It's an unhealthy obsession.

Like you just said that trump is By Far the worse candidate. If you truly believe that then I should be able to pull up say, 50 of your posts and find that 40 of them are criticizing trump and 10 are criticizing Harris. Or something with that kind of ratio.

Worse Candidate for the election or as a person? It's 2 different things that I am talking about. Kamala is the worse candidate for this election. She is terrible, worse than Trump. She will lose it and you will have Trump for 4 more years. You got 3 Supreme Court Justices running a terrible candidate and you might get 2 more because your overlords chose the worse candidate for this election. Again, this is not me, this is the Democratic Party, get mad at them.

Instead I believe it to be the opposite.
Why is that? If you think trump is the worse candidate by far like you say you do then act like it.

Why do I have to act like anything? I don't like Trump Im not voting for him, how else do you want me to act? I don't like Kamala and I'm not voting for her, how else do you want me to act?
Kamala, most of you posters refuse to see how terrible she is because of your massive Trump hate. I bring it up to show you how extreme she is. She is a left wing extremist. I know you guys dont care about that at all.

 

[Bucknutz]

What makes you say so?

Communication skills, lack of depth, no charisma, no history, no real accomplishments, lack of persuasion, no real passion about topics, lack of knowledge on topics. You can say the same thing about Trump but you look at a few of these items on this list, and if you are honest with yourself, Trump can out perform her on almost all of these things. She is a better Human, than Trump. But we are not voting on the best Human.

Who would you have wanted to be the candidate? The incumbent VP was a pretty obvious pick.

My post, 11 posts deep, right from the start:

As far as Biden being a better candidate, that is definitely not what polls or the internet bubble seem to indicate since she took over in the race. There's no doubt in my mind that Trump still wishes he was running against Biden instead of Kamala.

From the start or from Now? You give people time to learn who Kamala really is, then you are getting the polls that have been coming out over the past few weeks.

Again, not my overlords deciding your candidate for you. You have a primary, you have a win in the election. You select Kamala, you get a win for Trump or you hope to squeak out a win.

 

[The Thriller]

It’s interesting how Mr Jimmy Clean hands apparently doesn’t want Trump to win. Yet, how often does he come on this board and speak out as a conservative against Trump? Instead, Mr. Jimmy Clean hands exhausts his days on here bashing Harris and the Democrats. And attacking posters on here who admittedly aren’t Harris fans. One would think this would give him pause. Instead, he keeps digging in his heels.

He doesn’t want the MAGA label. But man he won’t ever be seen saying anything against Trump. Or anything for Harris. That’s just a bridge too far for someone who is like totally not MAGA and like doesn’t want Trump to win…

Has he commented yet on that video @fishonjazz provided with the bad **** interview? Why not? He’s posted a bunch today, so he’s had ample opportunity to comment about it. I can’t help but wonder where the gop would be today if folks like Mr. Jimmy Clean hands had spent their time attacking Trump and holding onto their party instead of laying down for Trump and focusing on attacking Democrats.

 

[Bucknutz]

It’s interesting how Mr Jimmy Clean hands apparently doesn’t want Trump to win. Yet, how often does he come on this board and speak out as a conservative against Trump? Instead, Mr. Jimmy Clean hands exhausts his days on here bashing Harris and the Democrats. And attacking posters on here who admittedly aren’t Harris fans. One would think this would give him pause. Instead, he keeps digging in his heels.

He doesn’t want the MAGA label. But man he won’t ever be seen saying anything against Trump. Or anything for Harris. That’s just a bridge too far for someone who is like totally not MAGA and like doesn’t want Trump to win…

Has he commented yet on that video @fishonjazz provided with the bad **** interview? Why not?

Right here Fish...you want your answer, right here.


Again, Thriller, if you want to chat, just ask me directly. You have gone around me 2 times today to find out what I think. Just ask me. I don't bite. But all I ask, is you stay on topic, no jumping to this or that or whataboutism.

 

[fishonjazz]

You going to add the other part in here or should I?


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I didn't see that you brought up more of logs post at the bottom. I only saw the section at the top so that is the part I posted
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[fishonjazz]

Let me ask you, why would I need to add on to the Trump hate in this forum? .

You don't need to. Just seems weird that your posts wouldn't reflect your thoughts and feelings.

I don't post my trump hate because of what other posters post. I just post what I see and how I feel about it.

If no one was posting about how bad trump sucks except me then my posts would continue to be about how bad trump sucks.

Just today saw trump talking about how great Victor orban is. He was saying that Orban doesn't let people into his country and that's why Hungary has zero crime and no problems.

trump says so much horrible ****. We, you included, should be calling it out. He is by far the worst candidate in history.

You say there is nothing new. It's the same old hit pieces. Lol. There is something new ever single ****ing day.

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[fishonjazz]

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Worse Candidate for the election or as a person? It's 2 different things that I am talking about. Kamala is the worse candidate for this election. She is terrible, worse than Trump. She will lose it and you will have Trump for 4 more years.

This is what we are talking about.
Why would you say that? All the polls show it to be neck and neck. A virtual tie.

So you go ahead and give the benefit of the doubt to the worse candidate by far. The guy who lost to ****ing Joe Biden. The guy who lost the popular vote to Hilary. Both things were before he lost in court for sexual assault. Before he was a convicted felon. Before January 6th.

Yet you, predictably give trump the election even though no one else is. Hell, Al a poster who likes trump much more than you (if I can even believe you which is hard at this point based on the evidence), gives the election to Kamala.

See how that looks? Any self awareness at all?

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[fishonjazz]

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Why do I have to act like anything? .

You dont have to act like anything. But if you are going to be extremely critical of Kamala while not being critical of trump (unless prompted in one of these conversations) then you shouldnt be surprised or defensive at the way you get perceived.

To be fair you could and should throw this right back at me. If I truly don't like Kamala then I should be critical of her sometimes without being prompted. There should be some kind of 20-1 ratio of trump critical posts to Kamala critical posts and that isn't the case.

I could use your save excuse and say that the criticism to Kamala put forth by you, Al, Bentley, steak, pjf, etc covers it. But that would be a poor excuse. I should criticize her without being prompted from time to time.

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[Bucknutz]

You don't need to. Just seems weird that your posts wouldn't reflect your thoughts and feelings.

Who do I really hate? No one really. Anti-Kamala, sure, hate no. I don’t talk hate about Biden, Obama, AOC or really anyone of the left. I don’t really hate anyone on the right. I talk more about policies.

I don't post my trump hate because of what other posters post. I just post what I see and how I feel about it.

Do you search out Trump to see what he has said or done for the day? I don’t because I don’t care what he says or does. It’s not new. Oh he made another nickname for someone, he tells a story and he “weaves”, he says he thinks someone is fat, sounds like same ole Trump.

If no one was posting about how bad trump sucks except me then my posts would continue to be about how bad trump sucks

Well get ready for another 4 years.

Just today saw trump talking about how great Victor orban is. He was saying that Orban doesn't let little into his country and that's why Hungary and zero crime and no problems.

trump says so much horrible ****. We, you included, should be calling it out. He is by far the worst candidate in history.

What is worse to me, someone who says some horrible **** or someone who says they want to regulate speech?
You probably know the answer.

You say there is nothing new. It's the same old hit pieces. Lol. There is something new ever single ****ing day.

Same thing every day, different victim

What is the video of yours that Thriller wants me to watch

 

[fishonjazz]

Who do I really hate? No one really. Anti-Kamala, sure, hate no. I don’t talk hate about Biden, Obama, AOC or really anyone of the left. I don’t really hate anyone on the right. I talk more about policies.

Weird response to me saying it's weird that you don't post how you feel..

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[fishonjazz]

Do you search out Trump to see what he has said or done for the day?

Nope. He is pretty unavoidable if I go to any news site. He is by far the loudest and most covered person. Due to how crappy he is. When I turn to KSL 1160. There is talk of trump. Co workers playing trump videos at work.

Lol at needing to look for trump talking points.

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[fishonjazz]

Well get ready for another 4 years.

Again giving trump the benefit of the doubt.

I think Kamala will win. I still believe in America. I think it will be close though and wouldn't be shocked if trump won. He has won already in your mind for some strange reason

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[Bucknutz]

You dont have to act like anything. But if you are going to be extremely critical of Kamala while not being critical of trump (unless prompted in one of these conversations) then you shouldnt be surprised or defensive at the way you get perceived.

To be fair you could and should throw this right back at me. If I truly don't like Kamala then I should be critical of her sometimes without being prompted. There should be some kind of 20-1 ratio of trump critical posts to Kamala critical posts and that isn't the case.

I could use your save excuse and say that the criticism to Kamala put forth by you, Al, Bentley, steak, pjf, etc covers it. But that would be a poor excuse. I should criticize her without being prompted from time to time.

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Don’t worry, I won’t post another Anti-Kamala post. I’ve already said why she is an extremist, why I won’t vote for her. In 20 some days, this forum will go back to the normal 24/7 coverage of Trump hate for the next 4 years.

 

[fishonjazz]

What is worse to me, someone who says some horrible **** or someone who says they want to regulate speech?

With trump you get both. Do your research. Google "trump talking about regulating speech"
Difference is the reasons why they react to regulate it. Kamala it's because of misinformation and toxicity to Americans.
trump wants to regulate those who are critical of Him.
We have discussed on here already. Just more evidence that there is always more new things to learn about how bad trump sucks.

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[fishonjazz]

Don’t worry, I won’t post another Anti-Kamala post. I’ve already said why she is an extremist, why I won’t vote for her. In 20 some days, this forum will go back to the normal 24/7 coverage of Trump hate for the next 4 years.

I disagree. I think trump loses and the GOP drops his ***.

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[Bucknutz]

Again giving trump the benefit of the doubt.

It’s not giving him the benefit of the doubt. If you look what’s going on in the field and nation, it’s not looking good for Kamala.

I think Kamala will win. I still believe in America. I think it will be close though and wouldn't be shocked if trump won. He has won already in your mind for some strange reason

Again, look outside of your normal information sources. Just see what people are saying in the Harris campaign, what democrats are saying, what internals polls are leaking. What candidates are changing strategies and where they are spending money. Look at trends in polls. All these things can show the pulse of the election. It’s not based off of a strange reason.

 

[Sardines]

Again giving trump the benefit of the doubt.

I think Kamala will win. I still believe in America. I think it will be close though and wouldn't be shocked if trump won. He has won already in your mind for some strange reason

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If there was voter apathy, which I was concerned about, I think Trump would have won. The fact that voters seem to be extraordinarily energetic and engaged, I don't think Trump has a chance. I mean I think he does have a chance, just not in as realistic a way that I did before.