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Elizah Huge said:
I need to see it consistently from Demin against better competition before having him jump into the top-3.
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I watched one full game (Central Arkansas) and saw enough. Dude is a legit generational playmaker prospect. I dont even care the opponent was mid.. as I'm so blown away by his passing.

He hits his passes perfectly so the shooters dont need to gather them even when he looks them off. He puts proper velocity on seemingly all of them and throws some bullets but his teammates dont drop them because they are so perfectly placed. His spatial awareness and peripheral vision are off the charts. He makes great last second reads on defenders before passing or shooting. He uses his vision to mislead defenders.

I mean he showed everything in that game that the best NBA playmakers can do except the type of trick passes that few guys (e.g. Ja/Jokic) like to do at times.

No one is supposed to be that good at that age.
 
HermanG said:
I watched one full game (Central Arkansas) and saw enough. Dude is a legit generational playmaker prospect. I dont even care the opponent was mid.. as I'm so blown away by his passing.

He hits his passes perfectly so the shooters dont need to gather them even when he looks them off. He puts proper velocity on seemingly all of them and throws some bullets but his teammates dont drop them because they are so perfectly placed. His spatial awareness and peripheral vision are off the charts. He makes great last second reads on defenders before passing or shooting. He uses his vision to mislead defenders.

I mean he showed everything in that game that the best NBA playmakers can do except the type of trick passes that few guys (e.g. Ja/Jokic) like to do at times.

No one is supposed to be that good at that age.
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I think you’re getting a little carried away. I mean seriously dude it was one game against terrible competition lol.

There are times at the YMCA I get hot and people start calling me Steph Curry.
 
Elizah Huge said:
I think you’re getting a little carried away. I mean seriously dude it was one game against terrible competition lol.

There are times at the YMCA I get hot and people start calling me Steph Curry.
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Analyzing passing and decision making doesnt really depend on the opponent. Either you see the open guys and place the balls correctly or you dont. Better opponent gives less opportunities to make those plays because their coverages dont break down as easily.

However I do accept that he may have had a hot night, and thus I may be jumping the gun.

But go watch that game and pay close attention to where his passes land for his teammates.
 
It's too early for me to call Demin a generational playmaking prospect, but what I will say is that even against the crappy competition I feel as though he's a real NBA quality playmaker and not one who is good "for his size". I think we've had to squint a lot more in years past and have been overrating a lot of guys and their playmaking just because they are tall. Demin would be a great playmaker whether he was 6'2 or 6'9 if that makes sense.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Gun to my head I would probably have Kasparas Jakucionis as my 3rd prospect currently. Really has a complete game and while not overly long or athletic, is very physically strong for his age.
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He looks like an incredible passer in the clips I've seen from him early this season. I'm not sure I'm seeing much else though.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Anybody have ESPN+ that can summarize the top 10?
www.espn.com

Updated 2025 NBA mock draft: Where's Cooper Flagg? Who could help Wemby? Nine freshmen in the top 10?

Three Duke players in the top 10? Where does the Rutgers duo land? And a Baylor guard moving up? Let's project all 30 picks for the 2025 first round.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
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1. Cooper Flagg, SF/PF, Duke (Freshman)
The Wizards, in a "deconstruction phase," would be thrilled to add a player like Flagg, whose consistent minutes showcase flashes of long-term potential. Flagg has been excellent against weaker competition, excelling across the stat sheet. Tougher games will further reveal his ballhandling and shooting skills, but early signs are promising.
Pick Protection: Minnesota retains this pick if it falls between 11 and 30.

2. Airious "Ace" Bailey, SG/SF, Rutgers (Freshman)
With the NBA's worst point differential, the Jazz seem ready to rebuild. Adding a high-potential wing like Bailey could aid in this direction. Bailey, recovering from a minor hip injury, will be challenged later in November. His mix of size, explosiveness, and scoring instincts keeps him in No. 1 pick discussions.
Pick Protection: Oklahoma City retains this pick if it falls between 11 and 30.

3. Dylan Harper, PG/SG, Rutgers (Freshman)
Toronto’s injury-hit lineup benefits their young core’s development, enhancing their draft lottery positioning. Harper’s versatility, scoring, and defense make him a valuable prospect. NBA scouts will watch his lead-guard potential and shooting closely this season.
Pick Protection: None.

4. VJ Edgecombe, SG, Baylor (Freshman)
Portland will likely pick in the top 10 again. Edgecombe’s explosiveness and two-way impact are appealing. Despite a shaky debut, he bounced back, showing versatility and team-first play. His shooting consistency is a key focus moving forward.
Pick Protection: Chicago retains this pick if it falls between 15 and 30.

5. Nolan Traore, PG, Saint Quentin, France
Detroit’s improved start might not deter adding Traore, a high-upside guard. He has impressed with shot creation and vision in French competitions. Continued development in defense and finishing will affect his draft position.
Pick Protection: New York retains this pick if it falls between 14 and 30.

6. Kon Knueppel, SG/SF, Duke (Freshman)
The Spurs are eager to add a shooter to complement Victor Wembanyama, and Knueppel fits with his shooting mechanics and physicality. Upcoming games against top teams will further indicate his NBA potential.
Pick Protection: None.

7. Egor Demin, PG/SG, BYU (Freshman)
The Spurs could gain up to four first-round picks, including Atlanta's. Demin is showcasing impressive court vision and shotmaking skills, gaining NBA attention as BYU’s season heats up.
Pick Protection: None.

8. Khaman Maluach, C, Duke (Freshman)
The Pelicans’ injury issues make a center like Maluach valuable. He has shown rebounding and rim protection skills early. His performance against elite centers will determine his long-term draft outlook.
Pick Protection: None.

9. Tre Johnson, SG, Texas (Freshman)
The Nets’ tough schedule could improve their lottery chances. Johnson’s hot start and long-range shooting make him an appealing option for any NBA team looking for a strong wing.
 
KqWIN said:
1. Cooper Flagg, SF/PF, Duke (Freshman)
The Wizards, in a "deconstruction phase," would be thrilled to add a player like Flagg, whose consistent minutes showcase flashes of long-term potential. Flagg has been excellent against weaker competition, excelling across the stat sheet. Tougher games will further reveal his ballhandling and shooting skills, but early signs are promising.
Pick Protection: Minnesota retains this pick if it falls between 11 and 30.

2. Airious "Ace" Bailey, SG/SF, Rutgers (Freshman)
With the NBA's worst point differential, the Jazz seem ready to rebuild. Adding a high-potential wing like Bailey could aid in this direction. Bailey, recovering from a minor hip injury, will be challenged later in November. His mix of size, explosiveness, and scoring instincts keeps him in No. 1 pick discussions.
Pick Protection: Oklahoma City retains this pick if it falls between 11 and 30.

3. Dylan Harper, PG/SG, Rutgers (Freshman)
Toronto’s injury-hit lineup benefits their young core’s development, enhancing their draft lottery positioning. Harper’s versatility, scoring, and defense make him a valuable prospect. NBA scouts will watch his lead-guard potential and shooting closely this season.
Pick Protection: None.

4. VJ Edgecombe, SG, Baylor (Freshman)
Portland will likely pick in the top 10 again. Edgecombe’s explosiveness and two-way impact are appealing. Despite a shaky debut, he bounced back, showing versatility and team-first play. His shooting consistency is a key focus moving forward.
Pick Protection: Chicago retains this pick if it falls between 15 and 30.

5. Nolan Traore, PG, Saint Quentin, France
Detroit’s improved start might not deter adding Traore, a high-upside guard. He has impressed with shot creation and vision in French competitions. Continued development in defense and finishing will affect his draft position.
Pick Protection: New York retains this pick if it falls between 14 and 30.

6. Kon Knueppel, SG/SF, Duke (Freshman)
The Spurs are eager to add a shooter to complement Victor Wembanyama, and Knueppel fits with his shooting mechanics and physicality. Upcoming games against top teams will further indicate his NBA potential.
Pick Protection: None.

7. Egor Demin, PG/SG, BYU (Freshman)
The Spurs could gain up to four first-round picks, including Atlanta's. Demin is showcasing impressive court vision and shotmaking skills, gaining NBA attention as BYU’s season heats up.
Pick Protection: None.

8. Khaman Maluach, C, Duke (Freshman)
The Pelicans’ injury issues make a center like Maluach valuable. He has shown rebounding and rim protection skills early. His performance against elite centers will determine his long-term draft outlook.
Pick Protection: None.

9. Tre Johnson, SG, Texas (Freshman)
The Nets’ tough schedule could improve their lottery chances. Johnson’s hot start and long-range shooting make him an appealing option for any NBA team looking for a strong wing.
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Thank You!

Who did they pick for the Jazz with the MIn and Cle picks?
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Thank You!

Who did they pick for the Jazz with the MIn and Cle picks?
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21. Utah Jazz (via Minnesota)
Derrion Reid, SF/PF, Alabama
Freshman

Utah can keep betting on developmental talent here, and a versatile player such as Reid could be an interesting long-term bet.

Reid dealt with a series of injuries over the summer, but returned to start the season and has been a contributor for the Crimson Tide out of the gate. His terrific feel and motor give him a great base as a long-term role player. Reid is making contributions as a scorer and impactful defender, and if he can demonstrate consistent floor-spacing capacity, it'll further enhance his one-and-done candidacy.

As expected, he looks like a strong fit for Alabama's up-tempo style. -- Woo

29. Utah Jazz (via Cleveland)
Adou Thiero, SF/PF, Arkansas
Junior

A rebuilding team like Utah should be interested in taking a chance on Thiero's long-term upside. After following coach John Calipari from Kentucky to Arkansas, the 20-year-old junior appears ticketed for his biggest role to date.

NBA scouts have been keen on his ability as a versatile defensive playmaker, with excellent instincts and timing racking up block and steals. His motor has always been a calling card.

Thiero's defense could be impactful enough that finding a simple niche on offense could vault his draft stock. And he's off to a good start, looking more comfortable reading the floor, getting jumpers up and using his physical gifts to his advantage. We'll see in the coming months how real that growth is. -- Woo
 
How do we feel about Ace Bailey? No Ceilings earlier in the year didn’t seem as enthusiastic as I’d expected, citing poor shot selection.
 
rippimpc said:
How do we feel about Ace Bailey? No Ceilings earlier in the year didn’t seem as enthusiastic as I’d expected, citing poor shot selection.
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Ace has never seen a shot he doesn’t like but they go in. Not really an issue to me.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
He looks like an incredible passer in the clips I've seen from him early this season. I'm not sure I'm seeing much else though.
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He does everything. All around skill, which is a big thing the Jazz are missing. Also extremely young as well. Will play the entire college season as a 18 year old
 
rippimpc said:
How do we feel about Ace Bailey? No Ceilings earlier in the year didn’t seem as enthusiastic as I’d expected, citing poor shot selection.
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He's going to be a fine scorer, but does he do anything else? I want to see how dedicated he is on defense
 
Someone named Dink won't be what we need. Promise.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Someone named Dink won't be what we need. Promise.
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He's a fine bet with a late first. I just find it funny that some people hold onto the fantasy that he is a PG. He will certainly be a good defensive prospect against PGs, but I dont see anyone calling him a PG during his NBA career.
 
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