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Following Potential 2025 Draftees

fishonjazz said:
I thought Demin looked a little better last night. It was at home and against a lesser team than they have played yesterday and his numbers were still not very good but he did have one amazing stretch in the game at least. There were more flashes last night. Encouraging
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Yeah, made a three-point bucket too. Baby steps.
 
Forwards with some size who are interesting if they can adapt their games:
  • JT Toppin - plays a lot like John Collins did in college and will need to expand his perimeter skillset similarly
  • Adou Thiero - plays hard and plays good defense, but has to shoot if he wants to be more than James Johnson
  • Collin Murray-Boyles - might be the most interesting of these three and likely has the most diverse skillset to work with
The guy people are starting to talk about is Rasheer Fleming. He doesn't really handle, pass or change directions well--it seems he gets off-balance, but he can make basic drives and knock down some spot-ups. Maybe he'd be a bit comparable to a guy like Markieff Morris. He's probably a bench player, but there's some value there.
 
idiot said:
A thread throwing (a little) cold water on him as a prospect

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I saw this thread on Twitter. While he makes some good points, the NBA game is going to give Jakucionis more room, more options and more quality teammates to work with. In the space and pace of the NBA, I think Jakucionis will show some of the same fluidity and creativity that you'd see from LaMelo Ball, and his game will translate better to the NBA overall.
 
idiot said:
A thread throwing (a little) cold water on him as a prospect

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Gonna be honest, while there are some good points made....it kinda feels like this guy is holding onto his predraft opinion on him. I think the concern about his C&S three ball is dubious and this concept of " losing the possession battle" is a little too arbitrary to be putting so much weight onto. He turns the ball over a lot, that is a concern, but hyperfixating on a somewhat random grouping of stats is odd to me.
 
KqWIN said:
Gonna be honest, while there are some good points made....it kinda feels like this guy is holding onto his predraft opinion on him. I think the concern about his C&S three ball is dubious and this concept of " losing the possession battle" is a little too arbitrary to be putting so much weight onto. He turns the ball over a lot, that is a concern, but hyperfixating on a somewhat random grouping of stats is odd to me.
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Turnovers are one of the least concerning things for prospects. it usually just means they are playmakers who take risk, which is a good thing.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Turnovers are one of the least concerning things for prospects. it usually just means they are playmakers who take risk, which is a good thing.
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On top of that….its just weird to throw in stocks and lack of fouling as the only way a ball handler can make up for being turnover prone. It’s not like Kas is even bad in those areas, but it’s a weird association and fixation on “the possession battle”. Kind of funny to be so critical on the possession matter and then toss aside the elite offensive production.

The other criticism of him was his catch and shoot three pointer. He had a 51 shot sample size being poor….thats like a fart in the wind and it just makes his off the dribble shooting more impressive. We really going to drop him because we don’t have belief in his C&S?

If these are the concerns, sign me up.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
I saw this thread on Twitter. While he makes some good points, the NBA game is going to give Jakucionis more room, more options and more quality teammates to work with. In the space and pace of the NBA, I think Jakucionis will show some of the same fluidity and creativity that you'd see from LaMelo Ball, and his game will translate better to the NBA overall.
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totally agree. His PnR and PnP options are pretty abysmal.
 
I'd be curious to know where the Jazz have Bailey and Jakucionis on their draft board. I'm guessing they'd be back-to-back, but it's hard to guess in what order.
 
Fears and Tre Johnson both played pretty well in their head-to-head matchup. Both were knocking down big buckets late in the 2nd half.
 
Collin Murray-Boyles is better than Grant Williams when Williams was the SEC POTY. He passes better, handles better and is more athletic. I don't think his transition to the NBA is too much to ask. He just needs to extend his offensive game out on the floor and rep out his shooting.
 
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I think Kessler is good enough that he influences us to not take a C, but I wonder if Maluach goes really high in this draft. It is not great after 4, I could see Maluach going in that 5-10 range and might bump someone down. His stocks are curiously low for a guy his size, but I think he does have great physical tools and good touch around the basket. He’s shooting close to 80% from the field and is a good FT shooter.
 
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