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SoberasHotRod said:
Oh wow, McNeeley went off last night.

View: https://youtu.be/IhF5xaT4l_4?si=MiUeDZv-Gymt5BoB
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crazy that highlights of a 38 point performance could look so unimpressive. he just looked so slow, even indecisive with the ball especially in the beginning of the game. probably unfair criticisms, but he made kyle anderson look fast by comparison - even just running around trying to get open and of course with the ball too. i still don't really have an opinion on mcneeley for good or bad yet.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
crazy that highlights of a 38 point performance could look so unimpressive. he just looked so slow, even indecisive with the ball especially in the beginning of the game. probably unfair criticisms, but he made kyle anderson look fast by comparison - even just running around trying to get open and of course with the ball too. i still don't really have an opinion on mcneeley for good or bad yet.
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Yeah, Im just not that impressed by anything other than the shot release speed, which looked really great on some of those highlights. I'd take Kon over him for Kon's potential as a Ingles type playmaker.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
crazy that highlights of a 38 point performance could look so unimpressive. he just looked so slow, even indecisive with the ball especially in the beginning of the game. probably unfair criticisms, but he made kyle anderson look fast by comparison - even just running around trying to get open and of course with the ball too. i still don't really have an opinion on mcneeley for good or bad yet.
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I don't disagree, but he is coming back from injury.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I don't get Maluach. I think I like McNeeley better than Kneuppel. He hates Tre I guess.
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I’m not as high on Tre as some here, but a lot of the big sites have him as barely cracking the top 10 or late lotto. I don’t get having him that low. Questions marks for sure, but his scoring is legitimately great.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
  • Flagg
  • Harper
  • Bailey
  • Edgecombe
  • Kasparas
  • Johnson
That's probably my rock solid, impenetrable top 6. I really dont see anyone falling out or anyone over taking them.

I looked at Tankathon today and they had Kon #6. He has been playing really well. I just struggle to see him overtaking anyone with his very limited physical tools.
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Agree. There is a pretty big drop off currently after 6 for me. I can see a few guys closing the gap, but not overtaking.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Agree. There is a pretty big drop off currently after 6 for me. I can see a few guys closing the gap, but not overtaking.
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FWIW when Fland got hurt I penciled him in at #7, with thy idea that guys would surpass him as the season progressed. So far nobody has blown me away that I would definitely put them ahead of Fland. Now I'm not saying that he'll end up 7th on my board or anywhere close to it, but just highlighting a grouping of guys from like 7 to 25 that are still really close together in my mind.
 
fishonjazz said:
Is there a general consensus on Bailey vs Harper?
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For teams, I think it will probably come down to positional preference, on whether you want to draft someone like Cade Cunningham or Jayson Tatum. They both have really high-end outcome scenarios, and they both have reasonably high floors. They're probably in the same tier, or just awfully close.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
He tries, that's true, but his terrible defense has really stood out to me the past few games of his that I have watched. He's a terrible screen navigator, gets beat regularly off the dribble, is slow to rotate, doesn't offer any resistance in the paint... yeah he's really bad.
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Tre isn't great defensively or as a ball mover, but I think he'll do enough to fit in and stay on the floor so he can shoot. He might be the best gravity shooter in the draft.
 
Pursuing the box scores from last night and JT Toppin scored 41pts/15reb/3st/2blk (in a 2OT game). I get that Toppin is just a basic big, and a little undersized for a center, but he's an extremely productive basic big, and as been pretty consistently productive this year. I feel like he should be mocked higher than he is.

Flagg looks like he had another good game (27/5/3/3stl). Mobley has scored 21 in the last two games in a row. CMB continues to be the only good player on South Carolina (20/6/3/1st/3blk). Harper and Bailey with relatively quiet games (at least from the box scores).
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Pursuing the box scores from last night and JT Toppin scored 41pts/15reb/3st/2blk (in a 2OT game). I get that Toppin is just a basic big, and a little undersized for a center, but he's an extremely productive basic big, and as been pretty consistently productive this year. I feel like he should be mocked higher than he is.

Flagg looks like he had another good game (27/5/3/3stl). Mobley has scored 21 in the last two games in a row. CMB continues to be the only good player on South Carolina (20/6/3/1st/3blk). Harper and Bailey with relatively quiet games (at least from the box scores).
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JT Toppin looks a bit similar to John Collins in college. Similar strengths and weaknesses. He's probably going to need to adapt to playing on the perimeter like JC did. I like him though.
 
Arkansas Ivisic had another massive game.

He has really bad rebounding numbers for a guy his size though, but can really really shoot it and block shots.

Think he gets eaten alive in the NBA on the defensive side, but if you can develop his body and that part of his game, he could be a really high upside pick. Wonder how high he goes given he has valuable stats that really pop.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
JT Toppin looks a bit similar to John Collins in college. Similar strengths and weaknesses. He's probably going to need to adapt to playing on the perimeter like JC did. I like him though.
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Yeah, I dont see him playing on the perimeter. He's not nearly as athletic as a guy like Collins and his shooting stroke is not pretty at all. He's purely a big IMO.
 
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