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BluesRocker

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I know this has been visited before, but lets do it again. Because the clock is ticking and a move has to be made.

First off. I love millsap as much as the next fan, but he might have to be the guy that goes. Because we have to move him or al, and he will be easier and bring more value potentially. One of those bigs are going to have to be moved sooner or later to make room for our young bigs. I think most of us agree on that. I dont think that we will lose anything because the combo of Favors/kanter/evans will make up any difference.

So here is the trade

We send paul to the lakers for the Dallas pick (top 20 protected, so we probably get it) and a future first rounder. Something like 2016 or something. Hopefully unprotected but probably not. And lakers use the TPE, and we take nothing back.

I think the Jazz have to consider something like this. I dont think we can play our hand too tuff here. I would hate to see paul walk without getting anything in a year and a half. As the time draws closer, i think our hand gets weaker. And teams wont be inclined to give up that much, because he then becomes a salary move.

I like the Dallas pick because it helps us move up potentially in this draft. And/or we find a gem in the late first round to aid the rebuild.

It makes sense for us and the Lakers. They could use Millsap. And he has had success against them, so i think they like him. And they must be looking to make one last push to please kobe. Kobe isnt getting any younger. Paul could play the sixth man role of the bench for them. And that Dallas pick cant mean that much to them.

I know some people might balk at helping the Lakers, but screw it. We arent ready to win right now anyways.


As an alternate trade we could send them Devin Harris for that pick, to help with their point guard woes. But that doesnt help our bigs situation.


What do you think?


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Trollinator 5000
 
Millsap for a 20th-30th pick? and a future protected first?

Are you ****ing retarded?
 
Why does LA do this? They obviously get a player for nothing, but how does he help them? Sap is a 6th man on a contender. I think our "bigs" situation is fine. Having 4 guys that can all produce at any given time is a good problem to have. I still think Sap comes off the bench while Favors starts, maybe not this year. Speaking of coming off the bench, is Al a starter on a contender?
 
The Lakers already shot down a trade for Beasley because they didn't want to go deeper into the luxury tax. Sap>Beasley, but I still don't know if the Lakers do it. I wouldn't want the Jazz to do it either.
 
Are you retarded? We might not get anything for him if we dont take what we can. Paul is a nice player but he isnt even an all star. And we dont have much leverage. Who ever trades for him wont have bird rights. And when his contract is up we wont have any leverage to do a sign and trade. He isnt that type of player

Are seriously ok with letting more assets walk out the door for nothing? We are basically renting Paul right now. No way can we resign him when his contract is up. Not when we have Kanter and Favors up and coming. And do you think he is going to want to sign here for cheap to play off the bench?

Get real man. Wake up
 
m3at said:
Why does LA do this? They obviously get a player for nothing, but how does he help them? Sap is a 6th man on a contender. I think our "bigs" situation is fine. Having 4 guys that can all produce at any given time is a good problem to have. I still think Sap comes off the bench while Favors starts, maybe not this year. Speaking of coming off the bench, is Al a starter on a contender?
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Lakers are still a contender. They just need some extra help. Like millsap
 
gesicht said:
The Lakers already shot down a trade for Beasley because they didn't want to go deeper into the luxury tax. Sap>Beasley, but I still don't know if the Lakers do it. I wouldn't want the Jazz to do it either.
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I dont believe that. The luxury tax implications dont start until 2 years. You saying lakers have thrown in the towel? Then why not trade away kobe?
 
I can't believe I read this. The Jazz will NOT do a trade because of GVC's thread. Jefferson will be very valuable next year.
 
What the hell do you brain dead retards not get about our situation?

Do you really think that we can trade Millsap for some Allstar wing or point guard? Let alone if we do that the player is going to put us over the top. Not happening fools. Pauls trade value is limited. Teams know he is undersized and has his limitations.

Just watch you idiots. We probably arent going to get crap for him and we wont be bringing him back when his contract is up.
 
BluesRocker said:
I dont believe that. The luxury tax implications dont start until 2 years. You saying lakers have thrown in the towel? Then why not trade away kobe?
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https://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba...sota-timberwolves-trade-offer-michael-beasley
The Minnesota Timberwolves offered to trade Michael Beasley to the Los Angeles Lakers for a first-round draft pick, but the Lakers turned them down, according to a league source.

While Beasley, a talented and athletic small forward, would fill one of the Lakers' greatest needs, the Lakers rejected the offer because they do not want to add to their luxury tax bill, according to the source.

With one of the league's highest payrolls at roughly $88 million -- well above the luxury tax threshold of $70 million -- the Lakers are due to pay $18 million in taxes this season. Since there is a dollar-for-dollar penalty for tax-paying teams, taking on Beasley's $6.2 million deal would add another $6.2 million to their tax bill and cost the Lakers a pro-rated shortened-season total of $7.331 million.

The Lakers' decision falls in line with their decision to trade Lamar Odom to the Dallas Mavericks for an $8.9 million trade exception in December. While Odom asked to be traded after finding out the Lakers put him in a foiled trade attempt to get Chris Paul, the Lakers' chief motivation for trading Odom was to chop their payroll and to save money.

Under the new revenue sharing plan in the recently adopted collective bargaining agreement, the Lakers will pay a bundle and because of that, owner Jerry Buss is no longer willing to spend so freely in going above the luxury tax, according to sources.

Under the Timberwolves' proposal, the Lakers would have absorbed Beasley's contract into the trade exception they received from Dallas. In return, Minnesota asked for the Lakers' best first-round pick in the upcoming draft. In addition to their own pick, the Lakers own Dallas' first-round pick, as long as it is not within the first 20 selections.

Though the Lakers have turned down Minnesota, it is possible they could change their minds before the March 15 deadline. With the Lakers sputtering on offense, Beasley would have been a welcome addition.

Beasley, the second pick in the 2008 draft, is averaging 12.8 points in less than 26 minutes a game for Minnesota. He averaged 19.2 points last season and has a career average of 15.6 points.

Minnesota is willing to unload him, however, because of immaturity issues that have dogged him throughout his career, as well as their logjam at the forward position.

The Lakers have been interested in Beasley since December. Sources say if their trade for Paul had gone through, they would have subsequently made a trade for Beasley.

Minnesota, fresh off a victory over the Los Angeles Clippers on Tuesday in which Beasley scored 27 points in 30 minutes, visits the Lakers tonight.
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BluesRocker said:
Lakers are still a contender. They just need some extra help. Like millsap
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How does Sap help them? You think this is the trade that puts them over the edge? If LA makes a move it will be for another star, not a complimentary player, something they already have enough of.
 
BluesRocker said:
What the hell do you brain dead retards not get about our situation?

Do you really think that we can trade Millsap for some Allstar wing or point guard? Let alone if we do that the player is going to put us over the top. Not happening fools. Pauls trade value is limited. Teams know he is undersized and has his limitations.

Just watch you idiots. We probably arent going to get crap for him and we wont be bringing him back when his contract is up.
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What exactly is our "situation"? I think the Jazz try to keep him, but if they don't, who cares, it's not like he's a super star that we can't afford to lose. We have two young guys that have a much higher ceiling than sap/jefferson and when those two young guys get more time, sap/jefferson better get used to coming off the bench, if not for Utah, then for another contender.
 
margodydek said:
Depth
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I understand that, but really, is he a difference maker or just another cog? Typically when LA makes a move it's not for someone else' garbage (not that sap is garbage, but I don't see him as that important piece they are missing).
 
First off, it's a retarded idea to begin with. No way the Jazz do that. But, the Lakers could do a lot worse with their TPE, and plus he expires after next year.
 
BluesRocker said:
I know this has been visited before, but lets do it again. Because the clock is ticking and a move has to be made.

First off. I love millsap as much as the next fan, but he might have to be the guy that goes. Because we have to move him or al, and he will be easier and bring more value potentially. One of those bigs are going to have to be moved sooner or later to make room for our young bigs. I think most of us agree on that. I dont think that we will lose anything because the combo of Favors/kanter/evans will make up any difference.

So here is the trade

We send paul to the lakers for the Dallas pick (top 20 protected, so we probably get it) and a future first rounder. Something like 2016 or something. Hopefully unprotected but probably not. And lakers use the TPE, and we take nothing back.

I think the Jazz have to consider something like this. I dont think we can play our hand too tuff here. I would hate to see paul walk without getting anything in a year and a half. As the time draws closer, i think our hand gets weaker. And teams wont be inclined to give up that much, because he then becomes a salary move.

I like the Dallas pick because it helps us move up potentially in this draft. And/or we find a gem in the late first round to aid the rebuild.

It makes sense for us and the Lakers. They could use Millsap. And he has had success against them, so i think they like him. And they must be looking to make one last push to please kobe. Kobe isnt getting any younger. Paul could play the sixth man role of the bench for them. And that Dallas pick cant mean that much to them.

I know some people might balk at helping the Lakers, but screw it. We arent ready to win right now anyways.


As an alternate trade we could send them Devin Harris for that pick, to help with their point guard woes. But that doesnt help our bigs situation.


What do you think?


Signed

Trollinator 5000
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Your on my ignore list, but I was just curious what you think is a serious trade proposal, so I peaked.

Whoops my bad.

And, the Lakers already traded Mark Gasol.
 
The Lakers are looking for a PG and a SF. Millsap is neither of those things.



default said:
I wonder if the T-wolves would even consider trading Beasley for Millsap. Beasley is not ideal, but could play some at the 3 or 4 in our system going forward.
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There's this guy there named Kevin Love who is pretty good.
 
Ill take gesitch's reason but surely not any of the rest of yours. I didnt know that they turned a beasly trade down. Thanks for your work to show me why.

Im surprised the Lakers are willing to throw in the towel over money. The economy must be really bad right now.

So essentially the lakers want to blow it up huh? Crazy
 
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