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PearlWatson

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Obaaamaaa sheep replaced the 57 stars with Obama's face.

Florida Democrat Party chick gets huffy when vets confronted her with the fed flag code.

https://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/03/14/Obama-flag-Florida
 
I don't think it is that big of a deal...but not a smart move by the democrats.

And I do believe that changing the flag like that is actually in violation of the Federal Flag code.
 

On the campaign trail Obama said there were 57 states. We could actually have pretty damn close to 57 states if Guam, Virgin islands, N. Mariana Islands, DC, Puerto Rico and America Samoa became states. They already vote and other things.
 
If you can't adorn the flag with the image of the GOAT - the man who single handedly solved health care, obliterated the national debt, and brought the troops home safe and sound - then this ain't the Land of the Free!
 
If you can't adorn the flag with the image of the GOAT - the man who single handedly solved health care, obliterated the national debt, and brought the troops home safe and sound - then this ain't the Land of the Free!

Don't forget the sea levels dropping!
 
On the campaign trail Obama said there were 57 states. We could actually have pretty damn close to 57 states if Guam, Virgin islands, N. Mariana Islands, DC, Puerto Rico and America Samoa became states. They already vote and other things.

Ah forgot about that gaff. TY for the reminder.
 
That's so cute, that you conservatives are still throwing around the 57 states thing. It's like 5 years old, and I still hear it all the time. It's like your own politicians are such pathetic, drooling, incompetent morons that produce so much utter stupidity on an almost daily basis that you cling extra hard to the few sip ups Democrats produce, just to make yourselves feel better! It's SO ADORABLE.
 
57 states? Flags? The real issue is, where are der jobs?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brj2UkUPjCI

stupid Obama! They took our jobs!
 
It's a piece of cloth. Who gives a rats ***? It was stupid, no doubt, but not because it's disrespectful. It was stupid because of the bad pub, nothing else.

But ya, why don't you idiots keep getting your panties in a wad over a symbol.
 
That's so cute, that you conservatives are still throwing around the 57 states thing. It's like 5 years old, and I still hear it all the time. It's like your own politicians are such pathetic, drooling, incompetent morons that produce so much utter stupidity on an almost daily basis that you cling extra hard to the few sip ups Democrats produce, just to make yourselves feel better! It's SO ADORABLE.

Sure...we'll stop it when you liberals stop quoting Sarah Palin and her "I can see Russia from my house"

Funny thing is, Sarah never said that. Tina Fey did on SNL.


So you want a current Obama gaffe? How about this:

President Obama got a laugh out of a Maryland audience on Thursday when he mocked the Republican Party in a speech, comparing their skepticism of alternative energy to the “Flat Earth Society” in Christopher Columbus’ day and President Rutherford B. Hayes’ apparent dismissal of the telephone. But while Obama thinks the GOP is in need of a science lesson, he may need to bone up on history himself.

In mocking the GOP, Obama cited an anecdote about Hayes in which, upon using the telephone for the first time, he said, “It’s a great invention, but who would ever want to use one?”

“That’s why he’s not on Mount Rushmore,” Obama said. “He’s explaining why we can’t do something instead of why we can do something.”

But Nan Card, curator of manuscripts at the Rutherford B. Hayes Presidential Center in Ohio, told TPM that the nation’s 19th president was being unfairly tagged as a Luddite.


“He really was the opposite,” she said. “He had the first telephone in the White House. He also had the first typewriter in the White House. Thomas Edison came to the White House as well and displayed the phonograph. Photographing people who came to the White House and visited at dinners and receptions was also very important to him.”

While often cited, Card said Obama’s cited quote had never been confirmed by contemporary sources and is likely apocryphal. A contemporary newspaper account of his first experience with telephone in 1877 from the Providence Journal records a smiling Hayes repeatedly responding to the voice on the other line with the phrase, “That is wonderful.” You can read the full story here.

“He was pretty technology-oriented for the time,” Card said. “Between the telephone, the telegraph, the phonograph and photography, I think he was pretty much on the cutting edge.”

As for why he’s not on Mt. Rushmore, Card noted that popular history tends to favor wartime presidents in the long run. To be fair, modern historians aren’t too hot on Hayes either in their rankings.

Obama’s invocation of the “flat earth” theory in the context of Christopher Columbus’ journey across the ocean also contained some dubious (if incredibly widespread) history.

“If some of these folks were around when Columbus set sail, they must have been founding members of the Flat Earth Society,” Obama said. “They would not have believed that the world was round.”

In fact, historians have long contended that the notion Europeans widely believed the Earth was flat, let alone 15th century Spanish scholars, is a myth developed centuries later. From the late Harvard paleontologist Stephen Jay Gould’s 1995 book “Dinosaur In a Haystack”:

There never was a period of “flat earth darkness” among scholars (regardless of how many uneducated people may have conceptualized our planet both then and now). Greek knowledge of sphericity never faded, and all major medieval scholars accepted the earth’s roundness as an established fact of cosmology. Ferdinand and Isabella did refer Columbus’s plans to a royal commission headed by Hernando de Talavera, Isabella’s confessor and, following defeat of the Moors, Archbishop of Granada. This commission, composed of both clerical and lay advisers, did meet, at Salamanca among other places. They did pose some sharp intellectual objections to Columbus, but all assumed the earth’s roundness. As a major critique, they argued that Columbus could not reach the Indies in his own allotted time, because the earth’s circumference was too great. Moreover, his critics were entirely right. Columbus had “cooked” his figures to favor a much smaller earth, and an attainable Indies. Needless to say, he did not and could not reach Asia, and Native Americans are still called Indians as a legacy of his error.

As far as muddled historic references go, Obama’s hardly the first presidential candidate to screw things up on the trail. But for an address specifically going after his opponents for their ignorance, it’s probably not great to have a “citation needed” banner on top of his speech.

Update: Looks like the legendary Hayes anecdote was used by Ronald Reagan in the 1980s as well, a fact mentioned in Walter Isaacson’s recent bestselling biography of Steve Jobs, who was present for one such speech. The Atlantic suggests this may explain how it popped back into the popular consciousness recently.

https://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/03/obama-mangles-us-world-history-in-energy-speech.php
 
It's a piece of cloth. Who gives a rats ***? It was stupid, no doubt, but not because it's disrespectful. It was stupid because of the bad pub, nothing else.

But ya, why don't you idiots keep getting your panties in a wad over a symbol.

Yes, just a piece of cloth, like mormon underwear.

Maybe you should ask some of the vets you refer to as idiots why they care so much for the flag as a symbol of the country they are willing to die for.
 
Yes, just a piece of cloth, like mormon underwear.
Finally, something out of your filthy sewer that ISN'T stupid. You are correct, Mormon G's are just cloth. For a lot of Mo's they are a symbol and are treated with reverence and respect. For people who don't believe the same things the Mo's do, they are just cloth. Great point. No, seriously, awesome. Thank goodness Mormons don't stand with their hands over their hearts and recite a propaganda-laced pledge to their underwear -- that would totally ruin your point.
Maybe you should ask some of the vets you refer to as idiots why they care so much for the flag as a symbol of the country they are willing to die for.

Putting words in my mouth? You? Never...

If people want to get up in arms over the flag, then so be it -- I won't, and I will sit back and boggle over people that do. If your patriotism or loyalty ebbs and flows over a symbol, then, uh, there's a good chance you've got your priorities wrong. I could be wrong though, loyalty and blind devotion to a symbol such as a flag hasn't ever done any real harm:

Nazi_flag.jpg
 
For a lot of Mo's they are a symbol and are treated with reverence and respect.

Same holds true for the flag and the vets who complained.

Thank goodness Mormons don't stand with their hands over their hearts and recite a propaganda-laced pledge to their underwear -- that would totally ruin your point.

They kinda do.

Putting words in my mouth? You? Never...

If people want to get up in arms over the flag, then so be it -- I won't, and I will sit back and boggle over people that do. If your patriotism or loyalty ebbs and flows over a symbol, then, uh, there's a good chance you've got your priorities wrong. I could be wrong though, loyalty and blind devotion to a symbol such as a flag hasn't ever done any real harm:

Nazi_flag.jpg

Those people who complained were vets. You called them stupid and now you are comparing them to Nazis. Classy of you. You are boggled by their love of their country and it's symbol because you haven't put your life on the line and you take the freedoms you enjoy for granted.

Thanks for making my point that flags ain't just pieces of cloth.
 
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