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Corbin's perception is different than yours

oldtimer

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Someone posted Corbin's statement after the laker game and it really bothered me. In essence his quote dealt with his development of the rookies and sophmores sometimes called the fantastic four, the four horsemen or as I call them the youngens. His quote was something to the affect that he has given the youngens playing time at the beginning of the year, when they weren't ready, so that they could develop and play at this high level now. My first thought was that he has to be dillusional, but then I started to think maybe he honestly believes that he has given the youngens a lot of playing time, perhaps sacrificing playoff position to do so. However, the facts don't support Corbin's position especially considering how well they have played when given a little court time.

I believe that Corbin has made huge mistakes in playing time distributions this year. Burks has several DNP's. Kanter averaging a paultry 14 minutes and Favors 17. I have seen games where the youngster were playing really well only to be taken out. I have also seen at least three games where the youngens brought the team back at the end of the third beginning of the fourth only to be taken out so the vets could lose the game. I personally think that Corbin is pissing the young guys off by not playing them more and is perhaps jeopardizing the future of the team. If the youngens get to upset they might not re-sign here.

I know I'm not the only one who believes this since I read this board all the time. Even people with basketball knowledge strongly believe the rookies need more time. For this I reference the Harpring quote from the Board member who went on the Phoenix trip. So either Corbin is dillusional or he was purposefully slapping fans in the face when he suggested he's been developing the youngen by giving them so much time earlier in the season. Honestly, I can't think of another explanation for Corbin's comments. I have never been a fire this guy or fire that guy, but I truly don't know what to think about Corbin's statement.
 
I have no excuses for Corbin. I don't get what is running through his mind. What he has done this year makes absolutely no sense.
 
I think he's talking about how deep the rotations have been. Typically your 4th big won't get 14 minutes. Your 5th wing won't get 14 minutes. Now I'm sure nobody wants Burks to be the 5th wing and he probably isn't at this point, but that's what he's talking about.

Also ESPN says Favors is at 20.2 MPG. Why is it that so many posters have him at a significantly lower #? Is ESPN just wrong?
 
I have no excuses for Corbin. I don't get what is running through his mind. What he has done this year makes absolutely no sense.

I was saying the same thing about Sloan for all those years (up until Wes Matthews). He made Deron Williams ride the bench and KEITH MCLEOD of all people was starting over him.
 
I think he's talking about how deep the rotations have been. Typically your 4th big won't get 14 minutes. Your 5th wing won't get 14 minutes. Now I'm sure nobody wants Burks to be the 5th wing and he probably isn't at this point, but that's what he's talking about.

Also ESPN says Favors is at 20.2 MPG. Why is it that so many posters have him at a significantly lower #? Is ESPN just wrong?
You know full-well that the argument is based on when Jefferson (and Millsap) are available to play.
 
JF sounds like they want Millsap cut or something. Dude's earned his minutes; Favors is on his way but Kanter definitely has not. Millsap was huge again against top competition LA. Give him what he's due.


Alec Burks didn't deserve jack squat early on. Hard work obviously pays under Corbin as he's played his way into the rotation.
 
No, no, no, oldT, ya got Ty all wrong. He has seen the light and woulda played Burks big minutes even if Kobe-killer Raja was perfectly healthy. LOL. NOT!

I agree with you completely about all this. That said, Ty is in a tough position, with lots of guys who deserve time or will be mightily p*ssed if they do not get time. KOC did him no favors (grin) by not alleviating the logjam at certain positions. Twill be interesting to see what team we go with into next season.
 
numberica

And you know full well I meant coronation, or carnation depending on you point of view. I tried to change it but it was a title.
 
You know full-well that the argument is based on when Jefferson (and Millsap) are available to play.

Between them Al and Sap have only missed 6 games. This is where I don't get the disparity. Also the argument you are referring (Corbin burying Favors for no reason) to is rebutted pretty well by pointing out that Favors had the starting gig to begin the season. He plays the guys he thinks will help the team win. Nothing wrong with disagreeing with Coach on that but a lot of people seem to think it's just because Derrick is young. I don't believe that.

Anyways most of my post was just my take on where Corbin's head was at making those comments. Since the OP was seeming to be asking in a sense.
 
His quote was something to the affect that he has given the youngens playing time at the beginning of the year, when they weren't ready, so that they could develop and play at this high level now. My first thought was that he has to be dillusional...
Corbin was absolutely right. Kanter stunk in his first games, but Corbin kept giving him minutes (15MPG in the first 5 games). Favours was not that great and played behind two borderline All-Stars and still got 24 MPG in the first 5 games. Evans got 3 MPG as well. Together, they played 43 MPG out of 96 MPG available for bigs - it was definetely more than their game warranted back then.
 
Corbin was absolutely right. Kanter stunk in his first games, but Corbin kept giving him minutes (15MPG in the first 5 games). Favours was not that great and played behind two borderline All-Stars and still got 24 MPG in the first 5 games. Together, they played 39 MPG out of 96 MPG available for bigs - it was definetely more than their game warranted back then.

Yea, but a lot happened since the first five games of the season, right? Everyone saw development and growth and almost everyone agreed they should play more, except Corbin.
 
I think he's talking about how deep the rotations have been. Typically your 4th big won't get 14 minutes. Your 5th wing won't get 14 minutes. Now I'm sure nobody wants Burks to be the 5th wing and he probably isn't at this point, but that's what he's talking about.

Also ESPN says Favors is at 20.2 MPG. Why is it that so many posters have him at a significantly lower #? Is ESPN just wrong?


Isn't the bench our youngens. Favors, Kanter, Hayward, Burks?
 
Between them Al and Sap have only missed 6 games. This is where I don't get the disparity. Also the argument you are referring (Corbin burying Favors for no reason) to is rebutted pretty well by pointing out that Favors had the starting gig to begin the season. He plays the guys he thinks will help the team win. Nothing wrong with disagreeing with Coach on that but a lot of people seem to think it's just because Derrick is young. I don't believe that.

Anyways most of my post was just my take on where Corbin's head was at making those comments. Since the OP was seeming to be asking in a sense.
We'll see if anything changes with Al back. The fact of the matter is first that Millsap has missed one game and Al has missed five. In the five games that Al has missed, Favors averages 36 minutes a game (going 4-1). In games where Al plays, Favors averages 18.
 
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I'm happy with Corbin. Maybe he should have started playing them more earlier, maybe not. We will never really know when the perfect time is. They are doing good, and it's not like there are any negatives popping up from Ty's game plan. Have patience.
 
We'll see if anything changes with Al back. The fact of the matter is first that Millsap has missed one game and Al has missed four. In the four games that Al has missed, Favors averages 36 minutes a game. In games where Al plays, Favors averages 18.5.

Those guys are ready. I'm now down with all of them under 30 mins as of the Laker game. Utah might make some noise with 4 starter quality bigs. The Sap at the 3 conversation could pick up as well.
 
I have no excuses for Corbin. I don't get what is running through his mind. What he has done this year makes absolutely no sense.

Yeah, he has us 1 game above 50% and in the playoff race. Has us above teams many "experts" projected we would finish below.
 
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