Hartsock
Banned
If you are involved with either wing you can eat a dick/
Black Kid Shot in Gated Neighboorhood
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If you are involved with either wing you can eat a dick/
*crickets* speak up more effectively than most citizens, and sometimes have more comprehension.
SaltyDawg
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I'm not going to get into the credibility of Zimmerman's close friends being used as witnesses (when none of them saw or even heard any part of this incident). But I will say that if Zimmerman is claiming that he was beaten within an inch of his life, he'd have to be a real moron if he didn't go home and get bandaged up for everyone.
As for the justice system running its course, yes, we all agree that it needs to. But the guy was never arrested or charged with anything so that is why there is so much outrage. The lead investigator on this case wanted to arrest and charge him, but was over ruled by the chief of police and a state attorney.
To make this point worthwhile, you need to start evaluating the claimed and possible reasons for the decision. Decisions like this are routine in police work. Perps like Josh Powell walk from custody when it looks like there isn't enough evidence to make the arrest. That's what upline officers are supposed to look at, and that's how the decision should be made.
It's probably routine for the cops on the beat to want to make the arrest and push for results from their work, and probably also frequently true that they haven't got enough evidence.
What will be crucial in this case is not the testimony of friends and neighbors, which perhaps the upline officers didn't know about at the time the decision to release was made, but which should have been sought at the scene. The officers at the scene have the duty to report/testify and should have dealt with, and reported the injuries, if any. And that is what the upline officers/authorities should have considered in making the decision to release. It will be, for purposes of making a case of favoritism, crucial to evaluate the integrity of that primary evidence.
Salty, it's just not credible for you to diss the friends and neighbor folks who said they saw Zimmerman the next day with a totally idiotic and irrelevant objection that they weren't eyewitness to the "incident" itself.
Hayward Supremacist
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https://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/...l-screams-not-george-zimmermans-2-experts-say
Audio experts say the voice isn't Zimmerman's. I wonder how many audio experts the media had to go through before they could find two who agreed with them? They're only fooling the libs and the blacks.
Audio experts say the voice isn't Zimmerman's. I wonder how many audio experts the media had to go through before they could find two who agreed with them? They're only fooling the libs and the blacks.
And you continue to fool no one but yourself.
SaltyDawg
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From what they said on TV (I know, media bias and all) there have been several murders in this city over the past year and they couldn't find another one where the police chief or state attorney personally went to the scene.
Apparently both of them went down there this time, on a Sunday night, and over ruled the lead investigator, who had wanted to arrest and charge Zimmerman.
As far as I know, the lead investigator in the Josh Powell case did not actually try to arrest him only to be over ruled by the chief and prosecuting attorney. (not to mention hindsight proves Powell should have been arrested)
Hartsock
Banned
My wife absolutely thinks this is a hate crime. I am not. We have had many long "discussions" on the topic and neither one of us has budged on our opinions. I am pretty sure he will be convicted of murder, probably 2nd degree, but I really don't think it was a hate crime. I cannot see a way that they will be able to prove that he killed him only because he was black. I just don't see it.
JimLes
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He might not have killed him because he was black, but he certainly was suspicious of him and decided to confront him because he's black.
Clearly.
Hartsock
Banned
That is not a hate crime though, that may be racist, but it is not a hate crime. There are a few things that will work against the hate crime argument in court, 1. the fact that he fit the profile of a string of break ins in that area, black youths 2. the testimony of his co workers that say zimmerman had a really bad temper, meaning it will be easy to say there was a fight and he snapped, 3. the injuries, whether you think they were there or not is irrelevant, they are in the police report so saying self defense will be an easy argument 4. the testimony they will have of his black friends
Not saying it wasn't murder, but being convicted of a hate crime is very very unlikely
JimLes
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Goodness gracious, is it ever easy to fit that profile when you're a black youth.
I know - stereotypes - right?!
Hartsock
Banned
I would put some of the blame on the black youths committing the break ins. The ones doing wrong give the others a bad name. Thats just the way it is.
JimLes
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A kid is dead, but it's okay because George Zimmerman's neighbour had his hubcaps stolen by a black kid 6 months ago?
This isn't even so much about race, but about the idea that your pointless, materialistic possessions are worth more than a human life. A wanna-be vigilante goes out to confront someone with a gun because they may be breaking and entering, and it's apparently worth shooting him, even if he was a thief, so he wouldn't steal some ****ing necklace or a DVD from your house.
This isn't even so much about race, but about the idea that your pointless, materialistic possessions are worth more than a human life. A wanna-be vigilante goes out to confront someone with a gun because they may be breaking and entering, and it's apparently worth shooting him, even if he was a thief, so he wouldn't steal some ****ing necklace or a DVD from your house.
Hartsock
Banned
A lot of assumptions here, there is not one post in the whole 28 pages that say anything about it being ok to shoot someone for being black, for looking suspicious, or that a dvd or necklace is worth more than a human life. Not one ****ing post. So shut the **** up unless you have something rational or intelligent to say. You are confirming the canadian stereotype as we speak.
Bwahaha, boom bitches. GhostOfDalamon is spinning in his proverbial grave right now. Muslim Canadians can't win.