What is Enes Kanter's trade value?
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I think I remember reading something about Enes not taking shots because he didn't want to, and that Corbin has said nothing of holding back parts of his game. I just don't think Kanter is comfortable with the game enough yet to shot his shot. Plus he only shots 65% from the FT line, let's not act like he has some deadly stroke that he is holding back at this point in his career.
Mission Accomplished
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What if Blues Rocker is not a troll account but a liberating way of not trying to stay only proJazz all the time. I would assume that if Blues Rocker has another account he doesn't use it that much anymore. There are many experts who are still high on Kanter. We can't judge these players until they get Hayward type minutes.
BluesRocker
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Wow even though you took your shot. This is like the most positive response I have ever gotten from you. Are we friends now? What's going on?
I agree about Rivers too. It just feels like he is going to be a star.
But really we have to consider that Kanter could get traded.
BluesRocker
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I agree that at this point his trade value is lower now because he is a known quantity and the Jazz are not offering him in any manner to be "showcased." That is because they have no desire to do so. Yes, he probably has been told to not shoot outside jumpers. And rightfully so. (Well, he took basically zero in the beginning and now he takes some. Which i'm guessing is what he's been told.) This is because he has a lot of aspects to be working on and at his stage, he's not going to be working on everything. Also, he's simply not good enough to be the guy shooting the ball - at this point.
JJ Rage
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He's not looking worth the 3rd round pick the Jazz used on him, at this stage in his development. I think that'll change.
I think it'd be unconscionable to trade him unless it becomes painfully obvious in 2-3 years that he is not going to be the player the team expected him to be.
I think it'd be unconscionable to trade him unless it becomes painfully obvious in 2-3 years that he is not going to be the player the team expected him to be.
BluesRocker
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I agree, but I am just preparing myself for the Jazz to do something crazy like trade him and keep Al.
I still totally believe in Kanter, and I understand why people would disagree with me. I have actually been blown away most of this year in how good he's been.
Context.
And when he got those minutes in Al's absence recently... you can't really deny that can you?
Context.
And when he got those minutes in Al's absence recently... you can't really deny that can you?
Jazz4ever
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Were you born in the night, last night? Just fall off the turnip wagon? Your first rodeo? Haven't been around the block more than once? Rivers is 6"4". Fair enough if you want to argue him as a Monta type undersized 2 though.
Kanter has gaps and he's SLOW. Watch Bogut get back on D and you'll fall in love with Jefferson's speed. Kanter reminds me of Bogut in transition. He's never going to get those 6 points per that Malone did by running the floor. Favors has full potential here though.
I would be very tempted at six but probably not 8 or later.
What did anyone really expect from an unknown with no playing time? He was a gamble, although a well calculated one that the entire industry had crunched down to the 3 spot. Now they're not so sure and neither am I.
By his D and rebounding or what? I don't know how you can argue against the Jazz losing at least 10 more games with him in and Jefferson gone/injured/benched. That's something I really wanted mind you, but I don't see how Enes would look a top 10 rookie given minutes at this point aside from a shaky class altogether. I think the more Kanter plays the more his weaknesses will be exposed. He's a project with a whole lot of upside, but that isn't coming through for me yet.
jazz doesnt have anything better to do now but to wait. We arent gonna be a contender anytime soon, why is the hurry ?
It was obvious we won't make a significant achievement this year anyway, but we got carried away after grabbing a few fancy mins. We should just pray to get as good trade pick as possible this year, and then move Big Al in the summer, give all the responsiblity to young guys including hayward, enes, burks, favors and this years draft pick and then move on.
it is stupid to look for ways to move one of your future franchise players
squareinthecircle
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I don't care how he ranks with his rookie class his first year. It can be difficult to keep in mind that Kanter, like Favors, was ALWAYS considered to be a project. You can say you accept that but then if you turn around and start comparing him to other more NBA ready rookies then the point is being lost. He was never meant to impress anyone yet.
Kanter likes it here, has a solid work effort, believes in himself and won't quit until he is a quality big in this league. Dude is going to make it, period. If not then he has a stellar carrer waiting for him in the WCW.
Kanter likes it here, has a solid work effort, believes in himself and won't quit until he is a quality big in this league. Dude is going to make it, period. If not then he has a stellar carrer waiting for him in the WCW.
For starters, yes. Despite having hit a rough patch (that I think is a combination of playing more basketball than he ever has, but also simultaneously not given enough real opportunities to stay on the court), he's already shown an elite rebounding ability, and I was scared he would suck as a defender but he makes terrific decisions on the floor and he moves his feet stunningly well.
Yeah, I wouldn't argue against that, either. But I don't particularly care, either. I'm not a tanking advocate, but this year for me has been all about seeing what The Four can show and what new ways Millsap haters/doubters have to contort themselves to keep arguing.
But anyway, I think he'd look top-10 pretty easily if he wasn't getting buried under Big Al. Seriously, the guy can do NOTHING to earn substantial minutes, you don't think that affects how a person - let alone a teenager - contributes? I'm not saying he should play 30 minutes a night right now, but he's supposed to have the opportunity to when he plays well, and he simply does not have that. It's insurmountable. I would watch 10 Kanters come and fail than watch Big Al do his cute dancing and tard hook wondering if someone better is just buried under him.
Also, I don't see much in this video that would be hard to reproduce with some consistency (I also can see how he could considerably improve):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ0wMlRaJRg
BluesRocker
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i agree with you
I don't think anyone would argue against his elite rebounding and good D so far.
Well said and hard to disagree with any of that. Again, I would only consider trading him if there is a sure fire All Star within 3 years max to be had for him. I'm not sure Kanter will be there in 4 years but he'll be good regardless.