Why are the Thunder signing Williams in these scenarios? They don't need a guy like D-Will, they just need to improve their interior players.
We have to have Harden
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candrew
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Ibaka was First Team All-Defense and quite frankly should have won DPOY.
He'll be looking for Tyson Chandler money for sure - and that's more like 13-15 mil.
Well then why not go get Bron, Paul, and a couple others to add to the 5 studs they've already got? Now THAT **** there would sell some Zima!!
Why does he get so little minutes then?
27 mpg throughout the regular season. I can understand that because of the lockout and resting players.
27 mpg throughout the playoffs. I don't understand that if he is truly a DPOY.
I thought this would be obvious .. OKC is dumbing down his minutes/stats to keep him as much under the radar as possible, so they can re-sign him for 10.
I gotta admit, I tend to shut down (and completely ignore any and all stats) when I see these two words in the same sentence. I have a bias that has formed from watching him and I cannot change that paradigm at this point.
/olddog
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UGLI baby
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Well, in a fantasy world that would be great, but Lebrons contract is not up for awhile https://hoopshype.com/salaries/miami.htm and outside of the Thunder trading every draft pick they have, plus a couple of their young guys (Aldrich, Maynor etc.) there probably isnt any way they are getting James.
If Paul opts out I could see them putting the full court press on getting him. I'm a bigger fan of DWill, but how can you not want to go after a guy like Chris Paul when you see some of those things that he does out there on the court?
utahjazz107
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I'm not sure OKC will resign Harden over Ibaka. Looking at last night, it seems like Harden and Westbrook are taking away looks from KD. Harden is looking for his shot much more than he did in the regular season. He is definitely trying to prove himself but having 3 superstars at the 1, 2, and 3 won't win you a championship because each player needs the ball in his hands. OKC may want to consider moving Westbrook to the 2 and signing a young PG once Harden's contract is up.
candrew
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You were the one who described him as an athletically dominant big man.
Besides, he only plays 2 less minutes a game than Harden and he's already been annointed a max deal
The going rate for top shelf defenders (who also happens to be the best shot blocker) in this league is more than 10 mil - case in point Tyson Chandler.
Throw all the stats you want at me - you can bet someone will give him Chandler money.
Nah, that was a serious question. Why isn't he getting more minutes?
candrew
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Why doesn't Harden get more minutes? Go ask Scott Broooks - how the **** should I know.
BTW
Chandler in Dallas 2011 = 27MPG
Ibaka in OKC 2012 = 27MPG
Chandler's deal tops out at just under 15mil.
He got 33 mpg in the playoffs.......
It doesn't matter how many minutes Ibaka hasn't played. The fact that he's so productive in so few minutes is actually a positive in regards to how he'd be viewed. He's going to make a ****load of money, and I fail to see why it would be for anything less than Chandler (besides that Chandler has played a lot more years and is therefor eligible to earn more).
utahjazz107
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Would you guys do this trade? https://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7m54jzf
I don't like Perkins contract though
I don't like Perkins contract though
orangello
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I would immediately. Harden is an upgrade over Burks, and might always be. Perkins has a lower contract for a longer period of time but he will teach toughness and defense to Favors and Kanter. I seriously doubt OKC even answers the phone on this trade.
I bet we would have to throw in the GS pick and probably another pick for some future date.
This isn't about semantics, this is about financial reality. Look at Miami they have basically three max players and can't sign anymore because it would cause them to pay a huge luxury tax. Every team wants to put the best 5 guys on the floor but they can't because of $$$$ concerns. It is the main reason why the Lakers got rid of Odom. Sorry U gotta get a clue but the NBA is a business and every franchise has to consider the financials when making personnel decisions.
That is why I always point out to certain Jazz fans when they say bring this guy in and pay him the MAX and then bring this guy in and pay him the MAX. It sounds nice but then when Favors, Kanter, Hayward etc come up for their contracts there is no money left.
Based upon your comments, It is obvious that you don't understand the financial side of the NBA at all.