Joe Bagadonuts
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The two guys I can't stand are PK and Monson. I can't imagine how anybody finds either of them entertaining. I've decided to learn Spanish on CD instead.
David Locke and 1280.
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Now that I think of it, he also forgot to mention tadija dragicevic, maybe he isn't just a hack, maybe he's a communist!!!
Seriously, he failed to mention a TPE in a single article, call the police.
freakazoid
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Well, I have no doubt that your knowledge of the NBA and Utah's situation is this limited, but since Locke's job involves actually knowing something about the Utah Jazz, I have to say something smells fishy here. Like I said, I have absolutely no reason to hate on him, and I really was just looking for opinions as to why he would leave out a MAJOR detail in an article about Utah's options for improving in the offseason. I don't know why you're getting so defensive about it, unless you're his mother or something. If you are his mother, it would be a nice contribution to the board if you could ask him what's up with this, and then let us in on it. Just to make sure, let's go over the relevant part again, so you can try to understand why this strikes me as odd. You'll notice the article is about how Utah can improve in the offseason, including the use of trades. You know, those thingys that traded player exceptions help with when trying to improve the team.
Now, let me just say that I don't expect Locke to be an expert, just because he gets paid to cover the Jazz. Not at all. My intention in bringing this up wasn't to rip on the guy, so much as I was curious as to why he would leave it out. The Memo TPE is just under 11 million, and it's the 2nd biggest TPE in the NBA right now. It's not a minor detail that just happens to slip someone's mind. I just can't buy that. It seems to me that the people who don't like him make 2 claims. They don't like him as a play-by-play guy, and they don't think he is an objective voice due to who signs his checks. I honestly couldn't care less about the first part, but if the 2nd part is true, then I find it very interesting that he would completely leave out an 11 million TPE, that in reality, should be the first thing listed under trades.
Locke doesn't mention the TPE at all, and yet claims that Utah is in position to sign a 2nd tier FA if they want. Only problem with that, is that Utah would have to renounce that 11 million TPE to do so. No way he doesn't know that. It just seems to me that he conveniently left out that little detail, because it would give some fans something else to complain about. I really don't think the guy is a hack. I DO believe that he intentionally left out the TPE, for whatever reason, and it makes me curious.
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Archie Moses
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Best post ever. Who the hell is this badass?
Forever Jazz
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From what Locke has said since the Jazz lost their draft picks is that it will be harder to use the TPE than if they had a pick. I don't think he thinks that we're going to use it. I have a hard time finding good use of it either in a realistic trade...
freakazoid
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It's possible we could actually use it in a 3-way trade, in which we gain a pick or player by taking on someone else's garbage, and it might not even have to be long term garbage. Either way, even if he thinks it won't be used, it's worth noting in an article where he suggests the Jazz could claim cap space, since the renouncing of an $11 million asset to claim cap space is fairly significant. This kind of thing just bugs me, and it certainly falls in line with people who believe he is not an objective voice.
My guess is he sees it as an unlikely scenario that the Jazz find a way to take on a near max contract player with nothing more than the Memo TPE. It also severely limits the Jazz ability to be players on the free agent market next year when the new CBA really kicks in, and could limit our ability to keep our own players.
There are several options Locke failed to mention in the article that I would assume are based purely on the general unlikelihood of them occuring, and this pipe dream we have of acquiring someone elses treasure with the second largest TPE and almost nothing to package with it seems highly unlikely to me.
There are several options Locke failed to mention in the article that I would assume are based purely on the general unlikelihood of them occuring, and this pipe dream we have of acquiring someone elses treasure with the second largest TPE and almost nothing to package with it seems highly unlikely to me.
freakazoid
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The TPE doesn't have to be used on a single player, nor does the entire $10,990,000 have to be used. Utah could use any portion of that on a less expensive player/s. Utah could also gain an asset by helping two other teams pull off a trade they couldn't make otherwise, and it's possible they could do it by taking on a player/s that only has a year left. Your scenario is nowhere close to the only possibility.
Of course that is unlikely, but again, this is not the only option for Utah to use it.
You mean like using the amnesty on Raja to claim cap space, when that means renouncing their 11 million TPE? Oh, wait, he DID actually mention that, except he forgot the minor little losing 11 million asset part.
The Memo TPE is not an option that he failed to mention. It's a significant asset that figures into Utah's offseason, and should be acknowledged, regardless of whether or not it's actually used. In fact, it's kind of an important detail of the unlikely option that HE DID mention. If you're going to talk about the Jazz trying to claim cap space, then it's kind of significant to mention they would have to give up an 11 million asset in the process.
None of your reasoning here makes a lick of sense. You keep acting like this is just some minor detail that anybody could forget. First off, the TPE is relevant to the things he DID talk about. Secondly, even if he did believe it was unlikely that it would be used, it's still a significant asset that should be addressed, either way. As a sports writer, he should mention it and then give his opinion, not simply ignore it. Smells fishy to me.
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Dude, he made a mistake in an article.
freakazoid
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Actually, that's my point. I have a hard time believing this just slipped his mind.
Joe Bagadonuts
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Hey, freakazoid, come here.
I need to show you something. Did you see the latest article from Brian T. Smith at the tribune???
Notice anything... fishy?
Brian T. Smith forgot to mention that the Jazz have the GSW pick next year, I think it's pretty clear that you and I can see that he's implying something by that. Obviously, this was no minor mistake, not a slip of the mind, but a part of something much, much larger, probably having to do with the Jazz front office wanting everyone to forget we have the pick so when the draft comes next year we don't have to make a selection. What else could it be?
WHY WOULDN'T HE MENTION IT??? It's our #1 trade asset, and yet he fails to bring it up when discussing blockbuster trade possibilities? What do you think, is there a chance the government is involved? Wouldn't surprise me.
Clearly though, one thing is absolutely for certain, this guy is a regular Miller Family Hack, an insider to the highest degree that has infiltrated the local paper to subconciously make Jazz fans like you and I forget our best trade assets in order to sabatoge our team and keep salaries low.
Keep an eye on this puppet with me freakazoid, I think we've stumbled onto a gold mine. This is some Deepthroat level stuff. Get your tin foil hat, I'll get my ghost detector, we've got some work to do.
Hey, freakazoid, come here.
I need to show you something. Did you see the latest article from Brian T. Smith at the tribune???
Notice anything... fishy?
Brian T. Smith forgot to mention that the Jazz have the GSW pick next year, I think it's pretty clear that you and I can see that he's implying something by that. Obviously, this was no minor mistake, not a slip of the mind, but a part of something much, much larger, probably having to do with the Jazz front office wanting everyone to forget we have the pick so when the draft comes next year we don't have to make a selection. What else could it be?
WHY WOULDN'T HE MENTION IT??? It's our #1 trade asset, and yet he fails to bring it up when discussing blockbuster trade possibilities? What do you think, is there a chance the government is involved? Wouldn't surprise me.
Clearly though, one thing is absolutely for certain, this guy is a regular Miller Family Hack, an insider to the highest degree that has infiltrated the local paper to subconciously make Jazz fans like you and I forget our best trade assets in order to sabatoge our team and keep salaries low.
Keep an eye on this puppet with me freakazoid, I think we've stumbled onto a gold mine. This is some Deepthroat level stuff. Get your tin foil hat, I'll get my ghost detector, we've got some work to do.
I'm guessing as a newspaper writer, BTS may be restricted by word count....
That and the fact that Matt & Locke seems like best buds judging by Harp's interview yesterday. They even BIKE together.
orangello
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Hey, freakazoid, come here.
I need to show you something. Did you see the latest article from Brian T. Smith at the tribune???
Notice anything... fishy?
Brian T. Smith forgot to mention that the Jazz have the GSW pick next year, I think it's pretty clear that you and I can see that he's implying something by that. Obviously, this was no minor mistake, not a slip of the mind, but a part of something much, much larger, probably having to do with the Jazz front office wanting everyone to forget we have the pick so when the draft comes next year we don't have to make a selection. What else could it be?
WHY WOULDN'T HE MENTION IT??? It's our #1 trade asset, and yet he fails to bring it up when discussing blockbuster trade possibilities? What do you think, is there a chance the government is involved? Wouldn't surprise me.
Clearly though, one thing is absolutely for certain, this guy is a regular Miller Family Hack, an insider to the highest degree that has infiltrated the local paper to subconciously make Jazz fans like you and I forget our best trade assets in order to sabatoge our team and keep salaries low.
Keep an eye on this puppet with me freakazoid, I think we've stumbled onto a gold mine. This is some Deepthroat level stuff. Get your tin foil hat, I'll get my ghost detector, we've got some work to do.
This cracked me up.
You might want to delete your Gunter locker room picture. I think that guy in the white shirt in the background is only wearing a t-shirt and NOTHING else.
InGameStrategy
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Tandem?That and the fact that Matt & Locke seems like best buds judging by Harp's interview yesterday. They even BIKE together.
LOL - it could be!!!
Matt said he's not into mountain biking and Locke said "in that case bring 'the BIKE' with you."