Brandon Roy wants to come back...interested?

[Lion's Roar]

KOC loved Brandon Roy when he came to the NBA, and the Jazz have experience with SG with no knee cartilage (stand up #14). But stand up shooters should be less affected by the issue. I don't know if Roy issues won't severelly amper his game. It's not like he can adapt to being a stop up shooter. His FG% after the injury was troubling.

 

[Lion's Roar]

On a side note I believe this would void the insurance payments on his contract and force the Blazers to pay up from their own pockets (ala Darius Miles). Would be a response to all those poisoned contracts they threw the Jazz way.

Either way if Roy is to come back he's better served joining a contender that needs him only sporadically so he can preserve the little health he has left in his knees.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I'm not saying he'll get MLE-type pay, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him get double what we paid Howard as well as a guaranteed second year.

Didn't every doctor he see call him done? I'm not even convinced he will get a contract, much less a 2 year guaranteed one. Vet minimum at most for 1 year.

 

[NAOS]

Didn't every doctor he see call him done? I'm not even convinced he will get a contract, much less a 2 year guaranteed one. Vet minimum at most for 1 year.

I'm not saying he WILL. I said I wouldn't be surprised if he did. Given the current obsession with the "clutch gene", Roy will have a batch of suitors... the more suitors he has, the better negotiating position he is in.

 

[NAOS]

I'll say some more before confusion sets in. If 10 teams are interested in Roy, I wouldn't be surprised if 9 of them wanted nothing to do with a second guaranteed year; however, the 10th team might put that offer on the table to win the 'sweepstakes'. Basic negotiation... show me what you got.

 

[Harambe]

So, we know Roy's knees are terrible. Bone on Bone is a whole lotta pain for 82+ games.

But really, does anyone else think that Portland's physicians are terrible? Oden, Roy.. go back a few years when they retired Darius Miles. Haven't they medically retired more players in the last 10 years than anyone?

IMO, Roy should probably choose a darkhorse in the Roy sweepstakes, Phoenix. They've kept Nash going pretty darn well.. when Shaq was there, he stayed mostly healthy. Seems like their staff really has their act together.

 

[theNBAnerd]

So, we know Roy's knees are terrible. Bone on Bone is a whole lotta pain for 82+ games.

But really, does anyone else think that Portland's physicians are terrible? Oden, Roy.. go back a few years when they retired Darius Miles. Haven't they medically retired more players in the last 10 years than anyone?

IMO, Roy should probably choose a darkhorse in the Roy sweepstakes, Phoenix. They've kept Nash going pretty darn well.. when Shaq was there, he stayed mostly healthy. Seems like their staff really has their act together.

i don't think it's their physicians. i heard a portland media guy on sports radio recently tell the hosts (i think it was checketts and scotty g's show on the old 1320) that the team doctors had warned them against drafting both oden and roy, and the FO decided the reward was too great to be scared away by the risk. basically the guy was saying, "everybody likes to feel bad for portland's bad luck, but they did this to themselves knowingly, so they can't be surprised."

sounds like the docs are doing their job, which is to provide management information to weigh into their decisions. it's just that the guys doing the weighing are taking bad risks.

 

[Harambe]

i don't think it's their physicians. i heard a portland media guy on sports radio recently tell the hosts (i think it was checketts and scotty g's show on the old 1320) that the team doctors had warned them against drafting both oden and roy, and the FO decided the reward was too great to be scared away by the risk. basically the guy was saying, "everybody likes to feel bad for portland's bad luck, but they did this to themselves knowingly, so they can't be surprised."

sounds like the docs are doing their job, which is to provide management information to weigh into their decisions. it's just that the guys doing the weighing are taking bad risks.

Saying no, and outright telling them they're retarded are two different things. We're talking three people in five years. One of which Portland didn't even draft.

You don't think that's a little excessive? How many people have the Jazz forced into medical retirement? I'm not talking at the end of their contract they stopped, I'm talking dropped the contract for medical purposes.

 

[theNBAnerd]

well that's all fine and good, but doctors aren't the decision makers. their job is to provide information and make recommendations, but if you think that their medical staff has the power to veto draft picks or free agent signings, then you have zero idea how an NBA franchise works.

same applies to the jazz. team doctors can say, "hey guys, matt harpring's knees aren't going to hold up for another 4 years," but if the FO wants to thank them for the input and sign him to a 4-year deal anyway, that's what happens.

 

[JazzyD]

Of course he wants to come back. And Yes, I'm interested.

 

[eaks]

Smh at some of you! Do yall not remember the playoffs a few years ago. Roy was one of the best and most clutch players in the Blazers series. He has a knack for hitting big shots which is currently what we lack. We lack someone who can hit a big outside jumpshot in the clutch.

Unfortunately I think he's going to want too much money and I think he's not going to be worth it.

 

[COJazz44]

Smh at some of you! Do yall not remember the playoffs a few years ago. Roy was one of the best and most clutch players in the Blazers series. He has a knack for hitting big shots which is currently what we lack. We lack someone who can hit a big outside jumpshot in the clutch.

Unfortunately I think he's going to want too much money and I think he's not going to be worth it.

He was basically the only reason why everyone thought Dallas was in trouble after he had that amazing comeback in the 4th last year.

 

[The Shocker]

i don't think it's their physicians. i heard a portland media guy on sports radio recently tell the hosts (i think it was checketts and scotty g's show on the old 1320) that the team doctors had warned them against drafting both oden and roy, and the FO decided the reward was too great to be scared away by the risk. basically the guy was saying, "everybody likes to feel bad for portland's bad luck, but they did this to themselves knowingly, so they can't be surprised."

sounds like the docs are doing their job, which is to provide management information to weigh into their decisions. it's just that the guys doing the weighing are taking bad risks.

Are you saying they're going to draft Jared Sullinger?

 

[theNBAnerd]

Are you saying they're going to draft Jared Sullinger?

ha, maybe. i think the point of this porty analyst was just that their doctors had perfectly laid out the risks involved with both roy and oden, and the blazers went ahead anyway.

imagine if they hadn't. if they had listened to the doctors, they would have taken durant instead of oden in 2007, and if they had stayed at 7 in 2006 (when they traded up to 6 to take roy) they still could have had rudy gay, along with aldridge who they picked 2nd.

imagine a core of durant, aldridge and gay before you start feeling sorry for the blazers' bad luck... is my point, i suppose.

 

[NAOS]

Roy won't be limited to as few teams as Howard and Tinsley were. Plus, he won't be that cheap. I'm not saying I wouldn't be on the phone with his agent, but Howard and Tinsley comparisons have a limit.

i'd be surprised if the price is THAT different. we're talking about a guy who missed 35 games last season and all 66 this year. in 2010-11 he averaged a dozen points in 27 minutes, and you have to know that both of thsoe numbers are going to be lower after not playing for a year and a half. nobody's going to pay MLE-type money for that.

I'm not saying he'll get MLE-type pay, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him get double what we paid Howard as well as a guaranteed second year.

NAOS, i seriously doubt anybody is going to guarantee him a second year at ANY amount. this isn't brandon roy circa 2008. we're talking about a guy who hasn't played ball since 2010 when he scored 12 a game on 40% shooting and hasn't competed since then.

Didn't every doctor he see call him done? I'm not even convinced he will get a contract, much less a 2 year guaranteed one. Vet minimum at most for 1 year.

I'm not saying he WILL. I said I wouldn't be surprised if he did. Given the current obsession with the "clutch gene", Roy will have a batch of suitors... the more suitors he has, the better negotiating position he is in.

I'll say some more before confusion sets in. If 10 teams are interested in Roy, I wouldn't be surprised if 9 of them wanted nothing to do with a second guaranteed year; however, the 10th team might put that offer on the table to win the 'sweepstakes'. Basic negotiation... show me what you got.

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[Saint Cy of JFC]

You were right NAOS.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Saying no, and outright telling them they're retarded are two different things. We're talking three people in five years. One of which Portland didn't even draft.

You don't think that's a little excessive? How many people have the Jazz forced into medical retirement? I'm not talking at the end of their contract they stopped, I'm talking dropped the contract for medical purposes.

Greg Oden has one leg an inch longer than the other at 7' ~260 (on top of regularly injuring himself for most of the time he was playing basketball). And Kevin Durant plays SF (not Roy's position). Portland did that to themselves.

Brandon Roy was missing ligaments in his knees WHEN HE WAS DRAFTED. It's a miracle he was as good as long as he was. Portland did that to themselves.

As far as Darius Miller goes, that just reminds me that they were indeed the Jail Blazers at one time, which tells you all you need to know about ownership. Well, that, and that the Blazers were threatening teams that wanted to sign Miller (because they knew they went out of their way to get that injury exception).