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The Black Swordsman
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Try comparing research on criminology of people from nations with similar incomes. You get the same results as the ones I posted on my multiple resources I posted earlier. You didn't bust **** AKMVP. The only thing you busted is a nut after watching gay porn. However I busted your myths. I expect you to disagree with me due to your irrationality. If you were rational you wouldn't be an atheist.
MVP
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Well, I expect you to at least respond like a man who lost and admit that you lost. I busted your myth about religious people being better, about Norway being depressed and about religious people comitting less crimes. You just turn and twist your tail like fox which was cought steeling chicken in the barn and avoid FACTS. I do not see any counterarguments from you about highly religious USA having highest rates in teen pregnancy, STD and abortions either. And USA compares income wise quite well with Norway and Denmark for example.
And I am not atheist because I am irrrational. My parrents where very strict catholics who tried to drag my to church every occasion and force their beliefs on me. Fortunately when I grew up, finished university ( I have MS and Dr. degrees ) and thanks to science understood better what religion is about - I figured that I do not need one to be happy, wealthy and modest human being. End of storry.
...you don't see me dominating because I did it in a way that fools can't see....
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If you're going to be a smartass you first have to be smart. Otherwise your just an ***.
Pwning noobs all day every day. Watch the fools disagree with me now once again.
so we're too dumb to see that you're smarter than us, eh? that still doesn't make you very smart...
but you can think what you want.
tell me, did I agree or disagree? circle takes the square, right?
The Black Swordsman
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1) In 2001 Schnittker in the “Journal for the scientific study of religion” examined a data set of 2,836 adults from the general population and he found religious involvement had no significant relationship with depression. He also found that religiousness was a buffer against mental distress.
2) In 2002 Smith, McCullough and Poll, in their journal “A meta analytic review of the religiousness-depression association: evidence for main effects and stress buffering effects” carried out an analysis of over 200 social studies and found that high religiousness predicts a rather lower risk of depression, drug abuse and fewer suicide attempts
3) In 2002 Bryan Johnson and colleagues of the University of Pennsylvania Centre for Research on Religion and Urban Civil Society reviewed 498 studies that had been published in peer reviewed journals. They concluded that a large majority of studies showed a positive correlation between religious commitment and higher levels of perceived well-being and self esteem, and lower levels of hypertension, depression and criminal delinquency.
4) In the Handbook of Religion and Health, edited by Harold Koenig, Michael McCullough and David Larson. The authors reviewed 2,000 published experiments designed to test the relationship between religion and various medical conditions such as heart disease, cancer and depression. The overall results were that religious people tend to live longer and have physically healthier lives. Young people have significantly lower levels of drug and alcohol abuse, criminal delinquency and attempted suicide.
5) Even in China an officially non-religious state. A recent study by Paul Badham and Xinzhong Yao for the Ian Ramsey Centre at Oxford University, reported that a majority of those felt religious experiences had a positive effect on their lives.
6) In 2000, Political Scientist and Professor Robert Putnam surveyed 200 volunteer organisations and it showed that there was a positive correlation between religiosity and membership of volunteer organisations.
7) The Index of Global Philanthropy, 2007 states: “Religious people are more charitable than non-religious not only in giving to their own congregations, but also – regardless of income, region, social class, and other demographic variables – significantly more charitable in their secular donations and informal giving.”
The data speaks for itself. You didn't bust anything besides a nut after watching gay porn. Of course you disagree with me, if you were rational you would not be an atheist. I have refuted all your claims.
The Black Swordsman
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2005 Eurobarometer poll
17% answered that "they do not believe there is any sort of spirit, God, or life force" in Norway
12% answered that "they do not believe there is any sort of spirit, God, or life-force" in Lithuania
Comparing a poorer country to one of the wealthiest nations in the world. Also their religiosity is about the same...
Also you gave no sources saying any of these countries has more criminality or anything then the other. Even if you did you picked countries with similar religiosity.
Also I liked how you focused on criminal behavior instead of happiness and academic success. Regarding happiness and success in life, there is no debate. Religion helps wonders. Pray to god.
And to go along with that do you have the totals and percentages of people in total that are what religions. Is it possible that the demographics are close to the same and you don't have a leg to stand on? You are just throwing crap on the wall to see if it sticks. Try looking into it more deeply before you stake your life on some partially explored conclusion.
Thanks AKMVP for proving my point. Just because something is good for you doesn't mean you can ignore your other responsibilities.
AKMVP you don't see me dominating because I did it in a way that fools can't see.
Tell that to Stalin, Hitler, Mao, and Pol Pot who commits less crimes. I back my claims with 8 different sources. Atheists just close their ears and shout there is no god over and over again
If you're going to be a smartass you first have to be smart. Otherwise your just an ***.
Pwning noobs all day every day. Watch the fools disagree with me now once again
I'm not hopeful, but it is possible that one day you will realize that it's not everyone else in the world that is an idiot, but you still will not be smart enough to cry or do anything about it.
When that day comes, I recommend you take yourself away from your internets.
MVP
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So you posted two different numbers of religious people in Norway in the same day. How you can be taken seriously after that?
The Black Swordsman
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According to the most recent Eurobarometer Poll 2005
32% of Norwegian citizens responded that "they believe there is a God"
47% answered that "they believe there is some sort of spirit or life force".
17% answered that "they do not believe there is any sort of spirit, God, or life force".
4% answered that they "do not know".
Here you go buddy, I know you can't put 2 and 2 together so I'll help you out. It's the least I can do. It's a sort of charity helping the people who aren't as intelligent as I.
32% of Norwegian citizens responded that "they believe there is a God"
47% answered that "they believe there is some sort of spirit or life force".
17% answered that "they do not believe there is any sort of spirit, God, or life force".
4% answered that they "do not know".
Here you go buddy, I know you can't put 2 and 2 together so I'll help you out. It's the least I can do. It's a sort of charity helping the people who aren't as intelligent as I.
MVP
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Great article, I suggest all of you read it.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/phil-zuckerman/imagine-no-religion_b_731548.html
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/phil-zuckerman/imagine-no-religion_b_731548.html
The Black Swordsman
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I have imagined a place without religion. I see Pol Pot, Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong. Over 100 million deaths. Oceans of blood and mountains of bodies. Atheists regimes are new to the world. They haven't started until the 20th century. It has been the most bloody century in the history of the world. I have seen it. No thanks. I will live my happier, less likely to commit suicide, more likely to have success life.
MVP
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Lol, you crack me up with your twists..... So you call Norway largely atheistic country in one post and how they are badly depressed with no god in their lifes, yet then compare it to Lithuania who has only 12% atheists and call it almost the same? Dude, make your mind once.
And calling yourself intelligent does not mean you are.... makes you cocky and arrogant.
MVP
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You trully are ignorant stubborn loser. They killed because of ideology not because they were atheists. Crusaders on the other hand killed millions because Pope ordered to do so "in the name of god".
The Black Swordsman
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Me saying I'm intelligent doesn't make me intelligent. Me being intelligent makes me intelligent. That is the simple fact that anyone who knows anything or is honest with themselves can't deny.
MVP
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Denmark - Nr.1 on happiest countries in the world list. USA - nr.18.
The Black Swordsman
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Denmark Sucks, is this is one big unhappy and depressed country?
Previously, a survey from The university of Leicester came up with the idea that Denmark is the "happiest place on earth". This came as a bit of a surprise to me, seeing as how Denmark is the country that ranks some of the highest in terms of suiciderates, mental illness and depression.
https://www.sst.dk/publ/tidsskrifter/vital/2001/vital01_04/kap13.htm
This new evidence from The National Healthservice of Denmark ( Sundhedsstyrelsen ) shows that once in a lifetime 600.000 people in Denmark will suffer from depression. That is out of a small population of 5,5million people. Something is not quite right in the State of Denmark.
Taken straight from the article:
"Man skønner, at der i Danmark er 200.000 voksne - eller fire til fem procent af den voksne befolkning – som til enhver tid lider af depression. Ca. dobbelt så mange har haft en depression inden for det seneste år. I alt regner man med, at 600.000 danskere får en depression i løbet af deres liv."
Translated directly into English. https://www.translate.google.com
"It is estimated that in Denmark there are 200,000 adults - or four to five per cent of the adult population - who at any time suffer from depression. Approximately twice as many had depression within the past year. In total it is estimated that 600,000 Danes have a depression during their lives."
Additionaly, two new surveys from OECD, showed that Denmark ranks high in terms of mental illness.
https://www.dr.dk/Nyheder/Andre_sprog/English/2011/02/14/132407.htm
Danes are mentally worn out
14. feb. 2011 14.06 English
Denmark is the country in the world where most citizens have to leave the labor market because of mental illnesses.
This discouraging fact is evident from a new comprehensive OECD-report, writes Berlingske.
The report reveals that when four Danes were approved for incapacity benefits or a flex job in 1995, the reason was mental illness in one out of four cases. Today every other person has a mental illness.
This makes Denmark the global front-runner of an international trend where more and more workers find themselves bedbound due to mental illness.
https://www.dr.dk/Nyheder/Andre_sprog/English/2011/01/18/134039.htm
Denmark has most mentally ill pensioners
18. jan. 2011 14.45 English
Schizophrenia, severe anxiety, depression and other mental disorders cause more people to retire due to disability than before.
In 1999, one in four new disability pensioners suffered from a mental disorder, a statistics that had Denmark rank sixth compared to other OECD countries.
Every other pensioner is affected
Nine years later, the survey showed a different picture.
In 2008, close to every other Danish disability pensioner suffered from a mental disorder, the highest share in all of the OECD, according to Local Government Denmark’s newsletter Momentum.
The number of new disability pensioners each year has also increased, just as the total number has swelled, with some 250,000 Danes receiving disability benefits today.
The employers’ responsibility
Vilhelm Borg, Senior Researcher at the National Research Centre for the Working Environment, thinks that society should be far more cautious in placing people on permanent disability benefits.
- As a rule, the employers should do far more to retain mentally vulnerable employees by modifying the work for when they go through a difficult patch, he says to Momentum.
He thinks that the Danish top spot in the OECD survey may be a result of the custom in other countries of relatives providing for and nursing the mentally ill at home.
This is well backed up by the fact that Denmark is ranked relatively high in terms of suiciderates.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate
This leaves me with the question: With mental illness,depressionrates and suiciderates in Denmark being high, was this whole idea of "Happy Denmark" one big illusion, or was it made purely and solely for tourism purposes?
Previously, a survey from The university of Leicester came up with the idea that Denmark is the "happiest place on earth". This came as a bit of a surprise to me, seeing as how Denmark is the country that ranks some of the highest in terms of suiciderates, mental illness and depression.
https://www.sst.dk/publ/tidsskrifter/vital/2001/vital01_04/kap13.htm
This new evidence from The National Healthservice of Denmark ( Sundhedsstyrelsen ) shows that once in a lifetime 600.000 people in Denmark will suffer from depression. That is out of a small population of 5,5million people. Something is not quite right in the State of Denmark.
Taken straight from the article:
"Man skønner, at der i Danmark er 200.000 voksne - eller fire til fem procent af den voksne befolkning – som til enhver tid lider af depression. Ca. dobbelt så mange har haft en depression inden for det seneste år. I alt regner man med, at 600.000 danskere får en depression i løbet af deres liv."
Translated directly into English. https://www.translate.google.com
"It is estimated that in Denmark there are 200,000 adults - or four to five per cent of the adult population - who at any time suffer from depression. Approximately twice as many had depression within the past year. In total it is estimated that 600,000 Danes have a depression during their lives."
Additionaly, two new surveys from OECD, showed that Denmark ranks high in terms of mental illness.
https://www.dr.dk/Nyheder/Andre_sprog/English/2011/02/14/132407.htm
Danes are mentally worn out
14. feb. 2011 14.06 English
Denmark is the country in the world where most citizens have to leave the labor market because of mental illnesses.
This discouraging fact is evident from a new comprehensive OECD-report, writes Berlingske.
The report reveals that when four Danes were approved for incapacity benefits or a flex job in 1995, the reason was mental illness in one out of four cases. Today every other person has a mental illness.
This makes Denmark the global front-runner of an international trend where more and more workers find themselves bedbound due to mental illness.
https://www.dr.dk/Nyheder/Andre_sprog/English/2011/01/18/134039.htm
Denmark has most mentally ill pensioners
18. jan. 2011 14.45 English
Schizophrenia, severe anxiety, depression and other mental disorders cause more people to retire due to disability than before.
In 1999, one in four new disability pensioners suffered from a mental disorder, a statistics that had Denmark rank sixth compared to other OECD countries.
Every other pensioner is affected
Nine years later, the survey showed a different picture.
In 2008, close to every other Danish disability pensioner suffered from a mental disorder, the highest share in all of the OECD, according to Local Government Denmark’s newsletter Momentum.
The number of new disability pensioners each year has also increased, just as the total number has swelled, with some 250,000 Danes receiving disability benefits today.
The employers’ responsibility
Vilhelm Borg, Senior Researcher at the National Research Centre for the Working Environment, thinks that society should be far more cautious in placing people on permanent disability benefits.
- As a rule, the employers should do far more to retain mentally vulnerable employees by modifying the work for when they go through a difficult patch, he says to Momentum.
He thinks that the Danish top spot in the OECD survey may be a result of the custom in other countries of relatives providing for and nursing the mentally ill at home.
This is well backed up by the fact that Denmark is ranked relatively high in terms of suiciderates.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate
This leaves me with the question: With mental illness,depressionrates and suiciderates in Denmark being high, was this whole idea of "Happy Denmark" one big illusion, or was it made purely and solely for tourism purposes?
The Black Swordsman
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Denmark is one of the highest countries in the world with alcoholic abuse, suicide, depression, and mental illness according to the facts.
MVP
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Well you neither look or act intelligent. If you would be inteligent you would agree with simple facts that religion does not make you better person, it is so simple it is not even worth wasting time on this silly discusion. It is like arguing with stubborn kid who screams that snow is black...
USA - highly religious country - high rate of teen pregnancy, abortions, std, crimes.
Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Japan - highly atheistic countries - low rates of teen pregnancy, abortions, STD's, crimes.
Yet you trying to act like blindman and ignore this and stick to your idiotic statement that "religion" makes you better. No it does not. Done talking to you as you are hopeless.