Victims!

[Revolution 9]

Tried to post this in a thread which has now been closed. This is NOT intended to elicit a response from Kicky, any mod, or anyone else who doesn't care to respond.



"Due process," heh. One of the most fundamental aspects of "due process" is the right to confront your accusers. After all these pages, I was just recently told what the nature of the "complaint" was. I then addressed that "complaint" without a word of reply. If I had been told of it, long ago, many of these issues would never had arisen. The mods tried hard to give me the impression that "they" had a complaint, which I presumed arose sua sponte. Turns out, they were merely trying their best to cater to the capricious whims of an unidentified "victim" who complained that he had been harmed by his own voluntary decisions and choices. Therein lies the "real" issue, as I see it, but it never got addressed in the least.

A lot of people complain about you. It's not just the mods, or one poster. Your posts are reported by other posters here all the time.
No one is out to get anyone. If someone is constantly pushing buttons, they are going to draw more attention. You know the game you are playing.

 

[VINYLONE]

You know the game you are playing.

No he doesn't. He's just a victim. A victim of an unjust system.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

No he doesn't. He's just a victim. A victim of an unjust system.

We're victims to his posting. Where do we go to whine?

 

[Hopper]

A lot of people complain about you.

I don't doubt ya for a second, eh, Rev? From what I seen here, a whole LOT of peoples complain about a whole LOT of thangs. It's Jazzfanz, eh? Whaddaya expect?

 

[sirkickyass]

I don't doubt ya for a second, eh, Rev? From what I seen here, a whole LOT of peoples complain about a whole LOT of thangs. It's Jazzfanz, eh? Whaddaya expect?

I think what he's saying is relevant though because you seem to be keying in on the particular phrasing of a single complaint. That just happened to be the complaint I pulled because it showed how the link process worked when you demanded I retract the claim that I had a link.

 

[Hopper]

I think what he's saying is relevant though because you seem to be keying in on the particular phrasing of a single complaint. That just happened to be the complaint I pulled because it showed how the link process worked when you demanded I retract the claim that I had a link.

Well, Kicky, if you're saying ya don't automatically give an infraction every time ya git some lame-*** complaint, then that's good to know! I figure you're not sayin ya had more than one complaint linked to that same post, but maybe you are.

 

[billyshelby]

What the crap is this thread even about?

 

[TroutBum]

What the crap is this thread even about?

The size of Tink's e-peen.

 

[billyshelby]

The size of Tink's e-peen.

Yeah, I figured out that much. But what the hell else is it about?

 

[Hopper]

I been kinda axxin mysef: If I was a mod, what would I do? I figure there would only be one way to git a warnin. Anybuddy who interrupted my important bidnizz, like surfin for filthy vids on the net, and stuff, by filin a complaint would get one, and only one, warnin: You lodge another complaint, buster-boy, and your sorry *** is gone, ya hear me?

Vinny would be the first to go, I figure, and I would kinda miss his ***, but, looky here, rules is rules, eh?

 

[Gameface]

I love those stories Game!!! Loved 'em! I tried giving you some points but the system won't let me. How unfair.

Oh heck, that isn't even the half of it. I just figured no one wanted a full-blown autobiography of my early years so I wrote it as quick and choppy as I could. It is all 100% true, though. No names were changed to protect the innocent.

If I ran into Mr. Fredrickson today I'd be tempted to kick him in the teeth. He probably feels the same way about me. We really didn't like each other.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

What the crap is this thread even about?

Somthun' about Hopper's lame ***?

Haven't really kept up, though, so I'm kind of at a loss myself. Maybe something about us all being victims because we should think that everyone is the victim of some other victim being victimized by someone who is actually the victim.

 

[VINYLONE]

What the crap is this thread even about?

Hopper playing the victim. Essentially a threaded commentary on what's wrong with the world today. Instead of using common sense and doing the right thing, most people use any excuse they can come up with to circumvent the system and then when caught, yell and stammer, "that things aren't fair!!!"

Hopper is the worst of us all rolled up into one internet caricature.

 

[VINYLONE]

I been kinda axxin mysef: If I was a mod, what would I do? I figure there would only be one way to git a warnin. Anybuddy who interrupted my important bidnizz, like surfin for filthy vids on the net, and stuff, by filin a complaint would get one, and only one, warnin: You lodge another complaint, buster-boy, and your sorry *** is gone, ya hear me?

Vinny would be the first to go, I figure, and I would kinda miss his ***, but, looky here, rules is rules, eh?

Why don't you GTFO and go start your own forum...I'll come join and then you can ban me.

 

[Loki]

Wow I leave for a bit and now this thread is about secret languages and axes and the size of Tink's pee pee and I'm so lost I think I'm just done.

 

[Hopper]

Wow I leave for a bit and now this thread is about secret languages and axes and the size of Tink's pee pee and I'm so lost I think I'm just done.

That's too bad, Loki, but I understand. If there were any members who had any interest in considering these kind of questions in an honest and sincere fashion (and you appear to be one of the few who may have had such an interest), I'm sure that Vinny, Sharpie, Bum, and those sort are quite pleased and satisfied to know that they have deterred you from doing so.

 

[Hopper]

This thread, like many, many others on this board, helps demonstrate one simple psychological fact that I'm sure businessmen, like Jason, are aware of. Some people simply LIKE to complain. If they can't find something to complain about in one place, they go lookin to find it in another. If you want to keep those kinda people's attention, you MUST give them something to complain about.

Even assuming that EVERY person on this board "complains" about me, or some other poster, that has it's pros and cons, from a site-owner's perspective, at least. Movies and wrestling matches generally require "villians" in order to keep their audiences entertained. Without a good villian your mass appeal is more limited.

Guys like Vinny, Sharpie, and Bum demonstrate my point. They all like to complain. They like it a LOT. They follow me around from thread to thread, like puppy dogs, just so they can "boo" their villian. They don't put me on ignore because they don't want to ignore me. Why would they? I am useful to their ends and purposes. Without someone to hate, ridicule, insult, and demean, they seem to get kinda lost.

 

[VINYLONE]

It's always about you, isn't it Hopper? Your sense of self is so out of whack with the reality of the situation, you continue to make yourself look like a fool. A bumbling fool with illusions of effect. As far as villians go, you're inconsequential. A microscopic dot of scat on the collective Jazzfanz sole.

Do you affect my time here on this board. Absolutely not. To do so, you'd have to matter.

 

[Hopper]

"Complaining" aside, boards like these also thrive on controversy and conflict. Factions even form, and groups sharing like views start to kinda "collectively" fight the opposition.

Take a simple issue, Sloan as coach, for example. The opinions about Sloan's methods, effectiveness, and desirability as a coach run the entire gamut. Many are generally satisfied with Sloan, while having some complaints about him or his "style." Others are dissatisfied, but don't actively try to advocate that he should be fired, or otherwise make repeated attempts to attack his faults, as they see them. Those people are kinda "in the middle" and it's not an issue that concerns them much, really.

Others are not "in the middle" and have very strong opinions that Sloan either is, or is not, a good coach for the Jazz. The "extremists" tend to be more committed to their views and more likely to espouse and articulate their opinion on the matter. In is in fact the "extremists" who generally propel the continuation of most threads. Without them, a few mild opinions would be expressed, and then the thread would quickly die.

Many who are NOT extremists (as I have labelled them) are nonetheless entertained by the spectacle of the extremists on both sides doing "battle." For them, it makes the board more "interesting," even if they don't care to personally get involved in debating the conflicting opinions.

At the very extremes, you find those who get those who display a pronounced "hatred" for their opponents. They come to "hate" a person or persons merely because he/they support(s) (or do/ does not support) Sloan, for example. Very often I have seen their "hate" turn into little more than incessant personal attacks on those who disagree with them. Again, for the average message board poster, this merely adds to the overall entertainment value of the board.

Some of those tend to "favor" one view, or another, but who don't care to "debate" it, find expression in acting as a "cheerleader." They often come into a thread without knowing, or even in the least bit caring, what the thread is about. They don't even care to know what the purported "discussion" is about. They are simply there to support their favorite "team" whatever the topic is. In order to do so, they frequently jump in with a post that, in effect, just says: "You're right, homey! You tell him!," and nothing more. Once again, it keeps them interested, and gives them a chance to "participate," even if they don't care to discuss anything.

 

[Hopper]

It's always about you, isn't it Hopper?

Naw, Vinny, it aint just me, there are quite a few others here who serve as "villians" for one faction or another. Anytime such villians post, you will see a great numbers of posts that don't even make a pretense of addressing the topic. They simply attempt to insult, demean, or ridicule the poster they don't like. Like I said, it gives them something to do. They may have no opinion whatsoever on the topic under discussion, but they do have a very strong opinion (extreme dislike) about the poster, and they want to be sure to announce it so that every one else will know (and, ideally, ratify and support) their "heartfelt" opinion on an unrelated matter.