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Some of the same skills that make Damian Lillard and Kendall Marshall the two highest rated point guards in the 2012 NBA draft are the ones that have teams cautious about selecting Tony Wroten Jr.

Unlike the pure, consistent jumper of Lillard, Wroten's left-handed J is considered broken by NBA scouts and needs to be retooled and worked on. Maybe for a number of years. But then again, players can learn to shoot. And unlike the leadership skills and high basketball IQ of Marshall, Wroten is considered to have a score-first mentality and often plays reckless and out of control. But then again, players can learn to reel it in and value the basketball more.

What Wroten has that Lillard and Marshall don't are the things that can't be taught -- terrific size for a point guard at 6-foot-6, supreme athleticism that draws comparisons to a young Rajon Rondo, and a knack for getting to the basket at will. Clearly, there's a chance that Wroten can develop into a very good pro, and that's what makes him one of the biggest sleepers in this draft.

So what team will take him? Currently, Wroten is projected at No. 30 by DraftExpress.com and No. 31 by NBADraft.net. The Bobcats make a lot of sense at No. 31, and GM Rich Cho is quite familiar with the Washington product thanks to his time in the Pacific Northwest with Seattle and Portland. Wroten could easily go higher than that, though, and some possibilities could be Atlanta at 23, Indiana at 26, Miami at 27, and Golden State at 30. Toronto is another team looking to add a point guard, and the Raptors could try to move up from their spot at No. 37.

Any chance we could do Jefferson, GS Pick, 47th Pick for Biedrins, 7th and 30th? Maybe throw in a future 1st round pick

Then draft Barnes and Wroten or Lillard and Lamb if their available
 
i honestly think all the PGs will get drafted ahead of where they're projected, simply because there are so few good ones. in other words, lillard won't last til 10, marshall won't last til 20, and wroten won't last til 30.
 
I seen Wroten a few years ago at an aau tourney when he had that tub of **** Josh Smith from ucla on his team and he was raw as hell I haven't seen him since though i dont think But id take him if hes there.
 
I seen Wroten a few years ago at an aau tourney when he had that tub of **** Josh Smith from ucla on his team and he was raw as hell I haven't seen him since though i dont think But id take him if hes there.

at 47? Yes.

he sucks, has progressed NOTHING in the last two years and way overrated .. unless 47.
 
He is a steal at 47. Heck, he is a steal in the late 30's.

shut up, you were not invited into the conversation .. nor do you have anything of interest to add.

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He had a poor performance at the combine. He actually had 0 bench reps per https://www.draftexpress.com/article/NBA-Combine-Athletic-Testing-Results-Released-3964

I've yet to see any evidence that the ability to bench 185 pounds bears any correlation to basketball skill or NBA success.

Kevin Durant also had zero bench reps at the combine.

https://www.faniq.com/article/Kevin...unds--NBA-PreDraft-Combine-Results--Blog-2863

Re: Tony Wroten. If he can be acquired cheaply enough he's a solid value bet. Given his age and theoretical ceiling he may be the rare guy who is more valuable at the 30th pick than the 31st pick due to contract lock-in.
 
I've yet to see any evidence that the ability to bench 185 pounds bears any correlation to basketball skill or NBA success.

Kevin Durant also had zero bench reps at the combine.

https://www.faniq.com/article/Kevin...unds--NBA-PreDraft-Combine-Results--Blog-2863

Re: Tony Wroten. If he can be acquired cheaply enough he's a solid value bet. Given his age and theoretical ceiling he may be the rare guy who is more valuable at the 30th pick than the 31st pick due to contract lock-in.

Depends on the player's style of play. Wroten plays a power based guard game.
 
I thought Memphis picking him was good actually. They need a difference maker on the perimeter and Wroten has the potential.
 
I am sure I read today that he only hit 18% of his jump shots, so that would take a lot of fixing.

This.

It's like every post includes a player and saying 'if' this and 'if' that .. no ****. Now how about 'if not' they will continue to suck?
 
I've yet to see any evidence that the ability to bench 185 pounds bears any correlation to basketball skill or NBA success.

Kevin Durant also had zero bench reps at the combine.

https://www.faniq.com/article/Kevin...unds--NBA-PreDraft-Combine-Results--Blog-2863

Re: Tony Wroten. If he can be acquired cheaply enough he's a solid value bet. Given his age and theoretical ceiling he may be the rare guy who is more valuable at the 30th pick than the 31st pick due to contract lock-in.

So, basically you're saying, there's one ***** in the NBA who couldn't bench **** and has had success since?

BTW, strength does matter 95% of the time.
 
So, basically you're saying, there's one ***** in the NBA who couldn't bench **** and has had success since?

BTW, strength does matter 95% of the time.

No. I'm saying I don't believe the bench press number from the combine is in any way predictive of NBA success and gave one dramatic example.

If you believe they are predictive "95% of the time" then go through the combine results and test that. In my observation it seems to be totally scattershot. Guys like Blake Griffin can bench a lot and are good. Guys like John Wall and Kevin Durant can't lift the bar a single time and are still among the best prospects in their draft class. As a result I don't dismiss a player based upon the bench press metric.

Avery Bradley bench pressed twice. It's not like he's a less physical perimeter defender than Luke Babbitt (15 times).

Seriously, if you can discern any rhyme or reason between the bench press numbers and ultimate results I'd love to see the results of that analysis. Otherwise I suspect you're just inventing patterns that aren't there.
 
No. I'm saying I don't believe the bench press number from the combine is in any way predictive of NBA success and gave one dramatic example.

If you believe they are predictive "95% of the time" then go through the combine results and test that. In my observation it seems to be totally scattershot. Guys like Blake Griffin can bench a lot and are good. Guys like John Wall and Kevin Durant can't lift the bar a single time and are still among the best prospects in their draft class. As a result I don't dismiss a player based upon the bench press metric.

Avery Bradley bench pressed twice. It's not like he's a less physical perimeter defender than Luke Babbitt (15 times).

Seriously, if you can discern any rhyme or reason between the bench press numbers and ultimate results I'd love to see the results of that analysis. Otherwise I suspect you're just inventing patterns that aren't there.

If it wasn't important, the NBA experts and scouts wouldn't test it. Is it important in all cases? No. But it gives the experts a sense of strength a player may or may not have.
 
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