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Jazz trade Devin Harris to Atlanta for Marvin Williams (merged)

margodydek said:
Awful idea. There's a reason the Hawks took back trash for Johnson. Yeah he's good, but he has probably the worst contract in the league. I remember when ATL signed him that people were saying that even though they overpaid, they didn't really have a choice. I totally disagree with this. A bad deal is a bad deal.

If NJ resigns DWill they will have roughly $50MM tied up between DWill, Crash & JJohnson. That's easily the worst super team in the league. I wouldn't even consider them a super team, but NJ is paying them like they are.
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Reminds me of the AK max contract. AK's contract kept the jazz from adding to the team, and made it hard to improve.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
I'm optimistic. At least on the rebounding side of things. Per David Locke:
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Yeah, we could be the best rebounding team in the league this year, or at least one of them, if our roster remains the same. I suppose our defense has perhaps improved too with Marvin at the 3 and more expected PT from Favors and Carroll as well. I imagine Mo's not so hot in that department but he seems to be a smart vet if nothing else.

Hmmmm...I wonder what their odds will be for over/under this season.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
I'm optimistic. At least on the rebounding side of things. Per David Locke:
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David Locke ‏@Lockedonsports
Marvin Williams is the 10th best defensive rebounding small forward in the NBA (defensive rebounding rate)
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FWIW Terrance Williams was 3rd, Matt Barnes 5th, Tracy McGrady 6th, Luke Babbit 7th and Dominic McGuire 8th - so it's not exactly like that was a select group. I think Marvin is a very solid player, but seeing Locke tweet out isolated factoids like that is funny to me. Marvin also played PF at times in Atlanta - and I like his versatility and ability to guard multiple positions - but it also helps out his rebounding rate too.
 
I don't like this trade. I LOVE THIS TRADE.

I think Marvin Williams was a product of his environment. I think he will be great with Favors. He is a better player than Harrison Barnes and a better athlete. With Favors we will be running great down the court.

He is still pretty young at 26. He will be very motivated since this is essentially a contract year. I think he is an active player.

Now, I hope we can keep him when he opts out.

Great Move!
 
Edgewriter said:
Marvin Williams has always seemed like a disappointment to me when you consider where he was drafted. So many question marks.
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Agreed, but keep in in mind that he was the fourth option on offense behind Joe Johnson, Al Horford and Josh Smith. He was literally almost like an afterthought. I think this is a great pickup. He's young and can improve. He's not going to live up to the potential of being a number 2 pick, but we don't need that. He's a true SF who rebounds well, is an above average defender, is a decent shooter (FG, FT and 3PT). This is another great move by KOC this offseason, IMO. If he manages to sign Danny Green and trade Jefferson this off season for something of value, it would be a truly outstanding off season for us.
 
Jazz now traded Dwill for Williams, Kanter, Favors and still have the gs pick. Pretty good if you ask me.
 
Different team, different coach, different style, different Williams. This is the kind of change of scenery move for a guy with loads of potential that often works out very well.

I am optimistic.
 
mfree said:
Different team, different coach, different style, different Williams. This is the kind of change of scenery move for a guy with loads of potential that often works out very well.

I am optimistic.
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Yeah, if the change of scenery is to L.A. or San Antonio.
 
If you look at this Jazz team, we are long, we are tall, we can shoot from the outside...except Al. The more this team is constructed, the more Al needs to be our sixth man, or gone. The good news is, the more this team is constructed, the less important it becomes to get back anything significant from an Al trade. We could trade him for nothing and still be good. IF we were able to trade him for a starting caliber sg or young pg? Holy crap. We would be a team with all the potential in the world.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
Yeah, if the change of scenery is to L.A. or San Antonio.
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ATL obviously had a dysfunctional culture. I think Josh Smith's attitude 180 can speak to this.

I think a starting job as a dedicated scoring option, where he's no longer reserved for purely garbage buckets and transition scoring, can do a lot for a player of his potential and youth will have an impact on his play.

KOC has had his eye on him since the Deron draft. He's has faith in him. Let's face it, Harris was going no where in Utah. His attitude was poor and he only brought it when the Jazz had a shot at the post season. We now have room to play a PG who has a winning heritage and can shoot.

This is a good gamble with limited risk. It could hurt our cap space next season, but we fill a spot that was occupied by CJ and Howard, both players I'm happy to send packing.

This move has potential. Great move by KOC.
 
green said:
If you look at this Jazz team, we are long, we are tall, we can shoot from the outside...except Al. The more this team is constructed, the more Al needs to be our sixth man, or gone. The good news is, the more this team is constructed, the less important it becomes to get back anything significant from an Al trade. We could trade him for nothing and still be good. IF we were able to trade him for a starting caliber sg or young pg? Holy crap. We would be a team with all the potential in the world.
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Or simply let him expire and have all that cash to spend on a stud FA next year.

Unless we're getting a great player back, I'd rather let him expire...
 
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