pickledXgrandma
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Oh and immodest clothing
How the Mormons Make Money
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What examples might you give that fit this category?
Zombie
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Oh come on, you know God likes lookin at fine ladies in sexy clothing as much as the next guy...
So question about the mall .. I assume the LDS church built and owns the mall building/spaces but it does not own the businesses, right? Not being an apologist (not even LDS) but just curious if the church is profiting directly from the retail sales or simply from the leases?
I am not suggesting it matters in the morality debate .. just curious.
I am not suggesting it matters in the morality debate .. just curious.
NAOS
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congrats! your first attempt at humor.
Mr. McGibblets
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As that article mentioned, the church operates A LOT of farms, ranches, etc. Also, they have the "Bishop's Storehouse" in Salt Lake and other canneries throughout the country. These run mainly off of volunteer labor or labor of poor people in exchange for food/goods.
As a result, the church produces tons (literally) of food that they send throughout the world for humanitarian aid. Also, they send some of the clothes and other goods that are donated to the local Deseret Industry Thrift Stores. They often donate in natural disasters as well. I believe that they give the stuff directly to the Red Cross who then coordinates the distribution.
Here is this blurb from the church's own website:
Did I understand your question correctly?
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You mean a massive infrastructure project provided the necessary stimulus to affect the unemployment rate?
Nah, you're Scat. You couldn't possibly be saying that.
Zombie
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But that's private money. If it was government money it wouldn't have the same effect. Because socialism.
Actually, I think it was more a matter of effective use of resources. Give $100 to a person in America, and he can eat minimally for a month. If he already makes 1,000/month, there won't be much difference. Give the same amount to a person in the poorest areas of Africa, and they can eat for several months on the same amount, and more typically make less than $100/month.
However, Scat is right that getting that person the full $100 is an issue.
Unless it went to defense spending. Because defense spending can produce jobs, just not any other sort of spending.
So you agree that markets will come in and stimulate, thus negating the need for corrupt, 2nd best policies?
And debt and instability. The lack of confidence and uncertainty surrounding future policy seems to be pretty meaningful.
(FYI, consider I'm all for a huge infrastructure stimulus program.)
Duck Rodgers
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Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude, that's Disneyland prices! By far the most revelatory thing in that article since I already was familiar with the church business structure. Has anybody been there? Is it worth the money? I always assumed it was just a boring church tour or something, plus being a South Provo bred kid about half of my friends growing up were Polys so I figured I already knew everything there was to know Polynesia , but if you're churning gate numbers at those price points especially since a quick website check revels that the lower end doesn't include a meal and there are pricepoints all the way up to that $228 mark with differing meal plans, it must be impressive.
Maybe.
Although it's worth noting here that this wasn't a private investment project in the usual sense of capitalism. The article itself points out that there won't be any return worth speaking of (or at least that the church doesn't expect there to be) and the whole thing was in some sense motivated by a desire to not have the area around Temple Square go to hell. I doubt that specific situation is precisely going to spring up all over the country.
Also, I'd be shocked if there wasn't some level of specific selection of vendors and contractors based on alliance with the church in connection with the project. Even slight poking around suggests that was the case, which looks exactly like the kind of cronyish practice that I believe you're referring to as "corrupt" above.
But come on, you know exactly why I'm tweaking Scat about this. I'm pretty sure he didn't even realize he was making a statement that should cause cognitive dissonance.
Yeah, that's why I went Cyrone on it a little. I got a kick out of the post and may have repped it (and OB's too) if Jason hadn't broken the system
.You two would have had a hayday with Senator Orrin Hatch's recent pure Keynesian primary win in "the most red state". He saved funding for Hill Airforce base, and Utah's economy by extension ya know.
No, just humor that you find funny. I'm making fun of religion after all.
It's pretty meh actually. There is a boat ride through a bunch of man made canals where they take you on a tour of all the Polynesian cultures. You get to see the very place that Elvis sat while filming Blue Hawaii. You get to watch a show of twirling fire torches and dancing hula girls (all properly covered of course) and you get an all you can eat buffet. The buffet was the best part but certainly not worth the price I paid to get in. Did I mention it is an all day proposition?
I'm hurt that you think so little of my intellect.
By the way, don't you need to change your location to Phoenix?