Lakers land D12
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The Thriller
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Oh please.
Criminal investigations?
Folks, just admit that there are some really stupid organizations out there. I think anyone on this board (and most of us live out here in the west, hundreds of miles away from Orlando) could have told Orlando that Dwight wasn't coming back over a year ago. I think most of us could have guaranteed that the Nets' offer was the best deal that Orlando could have asked for. Everyone saw this... Except for the Magic.... Likewise, everyone saw that Dwight wasn't going to stay... Everyone except for the Magic... So why act surprised or upset when they pull a junk deal like this one? You're talking about a franchise which traded FOR Hedo. A franchise which traded FOR Agent Zero.
Stupid is as stupid does.
The problem is, problem franchises (like Orlando, Washington, Toronto, Minny, Milwaukee, Charlotte, NO, New York, LA Clippers, Sacramento, etc) are run by idiots. There's a reason why they're constantly in the lotto.
This was merely just another example of the bad management of one of the many poorly managed NBA franchises.
It really doesn't matter what CBA you put in when you have morons managing teams. I mean, seriously, no matter what you do teams like SA will succeed while teams like Orlando or Minny will fail. You could take away San Antonio's next 10 first round draft picks and give them all to Michael Jordan. I guarantee you that SA will still have a better 10 year run than MJ's franchise because SA knows what the hell they're doing while MJ doesn't have a clue.
Despite critics, the Jazz are probably on the good side of being managed. They're not the best. But they're far from being the worst.
As Gov Herbert stated about 1 month ago, "You can't outlaw stupidity."
True dat. Orlando is stupid. They'll soon earn themselves a few nice lotto picks with major suckage over the next few years and will still find a way to screw it up.
Unless Stern finds a way to get rid of some of the stupid ownership/lazyass ownership that merely cares about breaking even, you will continue to see these types of moves.
Criminal investigations?
Folks, just admit that there are some really stupid organizations out there. I think anyone on this board (and most of us live out here in the west, hundreds of miles away from Orlando) could have told Orlando that Dwight wasn't coming back over a year ago. I think most of us could have guaranteed that the Nets' offer was the best deal that Orlando could have asked for. Everyone saw this... Except for the Magic.... Likewise, everyone saw that Dwight wasn't going to stay... Everyone except for the Magic... So why act surprised or upset when they pull a junk deal like this one? You're talking about a franchise which traded FOR Hedo. A franchise which traded FOR Agent Zero.
Stupid is as stupid does.
The problem is, problem franchises (like Orlando, Washington, Toronto, Minny, Milwaukee, Charlotte, NO, New York, LA Clippers, Sacramento, etc) are run by idiots. There's a reason why they're constantly in the lotto.
This was merely just another example of the bad management of one of the many poorly managed NBA franchises.
It really doesn't matter what CBA you put in when you have morons managing teams. I mean, seriously, no matter what you do teams like SA will succeed while teams like Orlando or Minny will fail. You could take away San Antonio's next 10 first round draft picks and give them all to Michael Jordan. I guarantee you that SA will still have a better 10 year run than MJ's franchise because SA knows what the hell they're doing while MJ doesn't have a clue.
Despite critics, the Jazz are probably on the good side of being managed. They're not the best. But they're far from being the worst.
As Gov Herbert stated about 1 month ago, "You can't outlaw stupidity."
True dat. Orlando is stupid. They'll soon earn themselves a few nice lotto picks with major suckage over the next few years and will still find a way to screw it up.
Unless Stern finds a way to get rid of some of the stupid ownership/lazyass ownership that merely cares about breaking even, you will continue to see these types of moves.
The experts are also saying Houston had a better deal than LA. So I wonder what backroom deals went down for Orl to choose LA over Brooklyn and Houston. If you choose the worst deal out of 3 either you are stupid or something is up. I don't think they are that stupid...
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I'm thinking Orlando purposefully shot themselves in the foot with this trade because they think that the worse they are the better draft pick they get. This form of tanking is only slightly more respectable then what the Warriors did. Also, I hope the Magic seriously over-perform, and then get hosed in the draft lottery. I just have a bad taste in my mouth that the Magic purposely took a worse trade in order to "tank"... of course the Lakers benefited enormously.
Gyp Rosetti
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I was wondering this too but wouldn't rookies like White, Jones, and the third dude Houston got likely suck worse than Afflalo, a seasoned pro.
trigg3r
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All we can hope for is that Kobe and Nash show a lot more of their age or the mileage that is on their legs in this coming season. This is exactly why people hate the NBA. Why not just contract every team besides LA, NY, Chicago, and Miami and have them play each other.
squareinthecircle
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That the league allowed this is ridiculous. I can't remember a more stacked team in the decades I have watched this sport, other than the Dream Teams. I love how Kobe said something to the effect that some franchises make all the right decisions- equine droppings. They've gone too far with this one though and I do hope Howard has little if anything to offer for the rest of his career.
Bynum was good but he wasn't consistent and was injury prone. I think Dwight wanted to be somewhere where he was "the Man" and that won't happen in LA. I wonder what Stern has to say about this. Maybe Stern vetoed the CP3 deal so that he could really stack the Laker team.
Bynum was good but he wasn't consistent and was injury prone. I think Dwight wanted to be somewhere where he was "the Man" and that won't happen in LA. I wonder what Stern has to say about this. Maybe Stern vetoed the CP3 deal so that he could really stack the Laker team.
Scorpjazz
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Wow, most of you have the red headed step child complex going on.
Yeah, it sucks the Lakers got Howard, oh well. It was done according to the rules and each team did get what they wanted, even if in your hatred you want to deny this. Mitch did what Lakers GMs always do, got his man. It doesnt hurt that people would rather go to LA than Utah, its a reality.
Yeah, it sucks the Lakers got Howard, oh well. It was done according to the rules and each team did get what they wanted, even if in your hatred you want to deny this. Mitch did what Lakers GMs always do, got his man. It doesnt hurt that people would rather go to LA than Utah, its a reality.
Chad Feldheimer
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Don't hate the Lakers here. It was Orlando who 1000% pissed the bed. They waited waaaay too long to trade him. Passed on several fair or somewhat fair offers and then at the end panicked and gave him away for spare parts. Everyone got screwed here except maybe Philly & Denver.
trigg3r
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I don't think I was questioning the legality of them getting D12. I said it was terrible for the NBA and it is. Same **** different year. Hey, maybe we should trade them Favors in 2 years for Ron Artest.....
Brown Notes
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They must be really sick of Bynum's immaturity to trade him for a guy with disc problems. Howard will be a great fit there if he recovers but my understanding is serious back issues like he has don't ever really go away.
trigg3r
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Bynum does have serious immaturity issues.
Scorpjazz
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Actually, it is great for the NBA as a company. For most of the teams, yes, it sucks ***. But for the money making machine, it is great. Now they can pump Lakers vs Heat all year long, and if they both stay healthy, it will probably happen. It does suck, dont get me wrong, I hate it.
For parity, again, it gets pooped on.
trigg3r
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It is fantastic for the big markets. There will however be consequences for the product as a whole. Now, I am not sure if I believe some of these people I have talked to or not. But they are seriously considering just not following the NBA any longer. I fell into this boat when I first heard about the trade. Since then, I think I have come back on that a little bit. I agree with you though, it certainly sucks for us.
Hotdog
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I have always liked Dwight, but now that he is a Laker, I'd could care less if he has injury problems. I hope he does.
Dwight going to the Lakers is terrible news for us. I was hoping they would fall off for a while after Kobe. Not anymore. They will be good for years to come.
Dwight going to the Lakers is terrible news for us. I was hoping they would fall off for a while after Kobe. Not anymore. They will be good for years to come.
fallenchicken
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I know i'm a little late but...
This is some BULL ****
This is some BULL ****
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I wasn't thinking of the Rockets deal (mainly because I haven't read much on it). I was comparing the trade with the Nets deal.