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What Is More Likely To Escalate?

I'll guarantee you this: if the US went to war at all costs with China, you would lose regardless of the military outcome. (actually, sorta like Iraq and Afghanistan, but super sized)

If America and China went to war everyone would lose. War is all heroic and fantasized until you are in it and see it with your own eyes.

A war between those two would change everything.
 
If I know NAOS, terrifying didn't mean frightening.. It meant idiotic.
Maybe I'm wrong...

Nah..

It meant frightening. It's awful that we can more easily imagine these scenarios than we can imagine something more humane than capitalist warfare. ( I'm not just referring to this thread )
 
It meant frightening. It's awful that we can more easily imagine these scenarios than we can imagine something more humane that capitalist warfare. ( I'm not just referring to this thread )

The worst is always easier to imagine. Human nature.
 
I'm not syaing USA will defintly lose vs china.
but it might be a vietnam kinda thing

heck america cant even win a simple "war" on terror and drugs

The war on terror is a joke anyway.
You can't possibly keep tabs on every possible terrorist in the world, and take them down.
And how to you win a war on drugs when the military protects 90 percent of opium crops in the world over in Afghanistan, and then the CIA ships the drugs over by the jet full?
 
Doubtful.
Unlike the U.S, China's military is very organized and not out policing the entire world.

You say that based on your in-depth knowledge of said militaries?

I don't know much about China's, but I know a little about the US logistics. If it comes to war, the US will be able to concentrate it's forces quickly and in an organized fashion. I have serious trouble believing that a country with an even greater corruptiobn problem than our country has is so much better organized than we are.
 
Doubtful.
Unlike the U.S, China's military is very organized and not out policing the entire world.

Well if all out war broke out with China all the troops in places like Iraq and Afghanistan would be recalled immediately. Also unlike the Chinese military the US military has much more experince fighting a modern war and has the clear technological edge.
 
You say that based on your in-depth knowledge of said militaries?

I don't know much about China's, but I know a little about the US logistics. If it comes to war, the US will be able to concentrate it's forces quickly and in an organized fashion. I have serious trouble believing that a country with an even greater corruptiobn problem than our country has is so much better organized than we are.

I speak mostly on my in-depth knowledge on the U.S. military, and it's failures ever since Vietnam.
Of course there's always the falsified "Gulf of Tonkian Incident", that's been declassified to never have happened.
And of course there's always the great response the military had on 9/11, and after Hurricane Katrina.
 
I speak mostly on my in-depth knowledge on the U.S. military, and it's failures ever since Vietnam.
Of course there's always the falsified "Gulf of Tonkian Incident", that's been declassified to never have happened.
And of course there's always the great response the military had on 9/11, and after Hurricane Katrina.

In other words, complete ignorance.
 
Is there really that much tension between China and Russia? I have always seen them as willing to join forces in any war instead of being foes.

As for wars are hatched in England. I don't buy that. Not any more. Wars are hatched here in the States. England has switched roles with the USA. We lead now and they follow.

It's no accident most people think this.

A tremendous testimony of superior strategy, superior thinking, and superior intelligence, and superior organization and management.

Look out your back door and take a look at the Oquirrhs, and understand the real meaning of "we".
 
It's no accident most people think this.

A tremendous testimony of superior strategy, superior thinking, and superior intelligence, and superior organization and management.

Look out your back door and take a look at the Oquirrhs, and understand the real meaning of "we".

The deffinition of "we" depends on what you are talking about. In waging war I think I am right. In other areas well that is debatable depending on the area.

I'd like "we" to mean more than 1 country.
 
Reading all the news headlines today it would certainly seem as if the Mayan calendar theory is not so far fetched.

Okay, so I created this conspiracy theory about the devil giving the Mayans some crazy info & having them create this calendar trying to figure out when he can travel Xibalba Be to earth & usher in his false reign on the Israel thrown or whatever it says in the Bible. The only problem is the Mayans made those calculations with primitive tools & miscalculated the solar ecliptic crossing the dark rift by probably 70 years. 1942 WWII would have been the time to convince us all of some long lost secrets buried inside Mayan ruins & how he can interpret them in a way that brings world peace magic. The devil missed his galactic road portal thing & is now screwed for at least another baktun. God will be laughing at the devil's failed plans on 12/22/12.
 
Well if all out war broke out with China all the troops in places like Iraq and Afghanistan would be recalled immediately. Also unlike the Chinese military the US military has much more experince fighting a modern war and has the clear technological edge.

You mean if Chinese troops magically sprout gills and swim their way over here? That's about the only way full-scale war with China happens any time soon.

Besides, we got ourselves a Japan. All we have to do if China acts up is unleash Japanese military buildup & wish China the best.
 
You mean if Chinese troops magically sprout gills and swim their way over here? That's about the only way full-scale war with China happens any time soon.

Besides, we got ourselves a Japan. All we have to do if China acts up is unleash Japanese military buildup & wish China the best.

you're using a restricted concept of war here.

My sources have discovered that all the empty steel boxes/railroad boxes/boat boxes that are used to ship merchandise to Walmart, which used to pile up in the deserts because nothing is going back to China, are disappearing somehow. And so are our Mexican illegals. Obviously, we are shipping the Mexicans to China, at a fine price. If this is true, it's a New World Order already.

The other remote possibility is that the Chinese are massing freight cans and preparing to fill them with their 100 million excess males, and will be unloading them on our shores, and telling them we have lots of guns and just go get them.

While such stealth strategies might give pause for thought, it remains to be explained how, if the Chinese use our devalued currency we dump on them to buy real estate at depressed prices, and other stuff like corporations with cartel status in various goods and services, how any of you can figure they haven't won already.
 
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