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What Is More Likely To Escalate?

Wrong
Israel doesn't pull the trigger first.
although USA and Israel are allies.
dont mistake Israel with the usa, Israel isn't in the business of starting fights/war.


I'm saying that I HIGHLY doubt that Iran will start a full-out assault against Israel. It does not serve in its national interests in any way whatsoever. If there is a war, I predict that it will be the side against Iran that starts a siege; whether this is Israel, the EU, the US is fairly irrelevant.
 
I'm saying that I HIGHLY doubt that Iran will start a full-out assault against Israel. It does not serve in its national interests in any way whatsoever. if there is a war, I predict that it will be the side against Iran that starts a siege; whether this is Israel, the EU, the US is fairly irrelevant.


yeah the US is the more likely one to start a war vs iran.
they even started a war over make believe wmd's. or unless they dont have the guts to start a war over REAL WMDS
eu are a bunch of freaking followers. they are yay sayers to the US
 
The Middle East region was the one that people feared the most in terms of escalation? Did you manage to completely forget about the Cold War?

Sorry, I guess I'm operating off of what really happened. The Cold war is called as such for a reason, and the middle east was just one theater where it played out to a degree.

But yeah, Zionism + everything else immediately was a huge problem and continues to raise the stakes for everyone around the world. It's absolute insanity.
 
I have a bet going with myself on when somebody will say a certain something. I'm guessing it will happen before post #17

Lost a bet to myself. Now I know how byu feels. Kicking your own *** is a tough pill to swallow.

For the record, I was sure someone would make a lame wiener joke. Ya know, escalating.

Boners n' stuff.
 
It appears that the middle east is the general consensus.

So if israel and Iran get after it how long before the other pro lens in the middle east become a part of that conflict. Specifically Syria and the middle east radical attacks? Does NATO get involved if turkey does. Does Russia and its allies get involved if Syria is attacked?
 
Not sure I agree with 'slowly' .. Otherwise yes.

Well slowly may have been a strong word. In today's warfare days= weeks and weeks = months. I was thinking weeks. Perhaps 2-3.
 
The China/Japan/Vietnam/Phillipines/Taiwan/Koreas South China Sea struggles?

The Iran/Isreal nuclear problem?

The attacks by radicals in the middle east on anything foreign, particularly American targets?

The Syrian conflict and apprehension of Turkey?



Thoughts and why? Do any of them escalate another?


Our dwindling economy?
 
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China will not be an open aggressors until the fact is accomplished. Which it perhaps may be already.

Wars are hatched in England. We are the English army/world cop. The relevant facts are simply that the Mideast is going to be a perpetual war. Russia and China will sit it out, and just watch us crucify ourselves on our oil cross.

Russia has more to fear from China than we do. The Chinese know there's oil in Siberia.
 
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China will not be an open aggressors until the fact is accomplished. Which it perhaps may be already.

Wars are hatched in England. We are the English army/world cop. The relevant facts are simply that the Mideast is going to be a perpetual war. Russia and China will sit it out, and just watch us crucify ourselves on our oil cross.

Russia has more to fear from China than we do. The Chinese know there's oil in Siberia.

Is there really that much tension between China and Russia? I have always seen them as willing to join forces in any war instead of being foes.

As for wars are hatched in England. I don't buy that. Not any more. Wars are hatched here in the States. England has switched roles with the USA. We lead now and they follow.
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/18/...ose-facilities-in-china-as-tensions-rise.html

1,000 Chinese fishing vessels headed for the islands at the core of the dispute. Japanese companies (Honda, Toyota, Sony...) closing stores and factories temporarily.


https://blogs.voanews.com/breaking-news/2012/09/17/protests-spread-over-anti-islam-film/

Indonesia, Pakistan and Afghanistan protests turned violent. Rallies in London and Australia. U.S. is closing its embassy during a large protest in Bangkok.
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/18/...ose-facilities-in-china-as-tensions-rise.html

1,000 Chinese fishing vessels headed for the islands at the core of the dispute. Japanese companies (Honda, Toyota, Sony...) closing stores and factories temporarily.


https://blogs.voanews.com/breaking-news/2012/09/17/protests-spread-over-anti-islam-film/

Indonesia, Pakistan and Afghanistan protests turned violent. Rallies in London and Australia. U.S. is closing its embassy during a large protest in Bangkok.

Reading all the news headlines today it would certainly seem as if the Mayan calendar theory is not so far fetched.
 
How can there be a major war? There is no parity of major powers. No country could go head to head against the US and NATO. Any war would by definition be a minor war. Russia and China ( or India) I guess is theoretically possible, but I don't see why.
or are you thinking about Iran and Israel.
 
How can there be a major war? There is no parity of major powers. No country could go head to head against the US and NATO. Any war would by definition be a minor war. Russia and China ( or India) I guess is theoretically possible, but I don't see why.

I think China and Russia v. U.S. and Europe would be a 12 round slobber knocker. I think neither side wants a war but the problem I see is if other countries that the above powers are treaty bound to get in a war.

Hence my comments about Turkey and Syria. Iran will back Syria obviously. NATO is treaty bound to Turkey. Russia is also a major supporter (from what I have read) of Syria.

Edit: No single country may match up but a combination might.
 
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