Official Utah Utes Football 2012 Thread

[leftyjace]

So, guess what?

My band is playing the Tailgate Lot for the USC game - ON the Pirate Ship. As in, the band is set up literally on the Pirate Ship. Should be a blast. If you're tailgating that day, drop by and say hello. I'll be the one singing lead vocals. We should be there from 3pm on.

 

[UGLI baby]

So, guess what?

My band is playing the Tailgate Lot for the USC game - ON the Pirate Ship. As in, the band is set up literally on the Pirate Ship. Should be a blast. If you're tailgating that day, drop by and say hello. I'll be the one singing lead vocals. We should be there from 3pm on.

I shall see you there, sir.

 

[Former Member]

I wish I could make some of these tailgates...

I'll have to settle for representing the Utes @ Oregon State! Is anyone else going to that game?

 

[CONAN]

I did not see multiple issues with the same player, but I did see cheap stuff by both teams. It was not a one way street,

I agree. Ute fans whine about some holier than though attitude but apparently their players are the cleanest on the planet and don't do anything wrong. Hypocrites.

I saw Star roll up Olineman all game long.

 

[YB85]

Utah's Bitch getting all defensive.

 

[UGLI baby]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ON1uKKeSk0Y

 

[colton]

Nice video, even if my team lost. I was surprised by how loud the clank was when the ball hit the upright.

 

[UGLI baby]

Nice video, even if my team lost. I was surprised by how loud the clank was when the ball hit the upright.

Highlighted by how silent it was while the kick was in the air.

 

[7StraightIsGreat]

Utah's Bitch getting all defensive.

This, but I forgive them.

When you've lost 8 of 11, there's not much left to do but get defensive and overly sensitive.

 

[leftyjace]

Holy ****!

So here we were thinking BYU was getting in excess of $1 million, possibly as much as $2 million per home game from ESPN.

WRONG.

BYU and ESPN also have an eight-year television deal worth nearly $4 million a year through 2018 with an option for 2019, sources said. The deal also allows BYUtv, which reaches 55 million homes, to broadcast one home game and rebroadcast every home game and every game ESPN has the rights for.

Source: https://espn.go.com/college-footbal...ence-divided-14th-football-member-sources-say

NOTICE THE SOURCE IS ESPN.

For those that have a hard time with math, $4 million / 6 home games = $667,000 per home game. And that's if we're generous and say that the "nearly $4 million a year" is close enough to round up.

Love it.

Looooooooove it!

 

[YB85]

For those that have a hard time with math, $4 million / 6 home games = $667,000 per home game. And that's if we're generous and say that the "nearly $4 million a year" is close enough to round up.

Love it.

Looooooooove it!

Less 10%.

 

[fatchipper]

Less 10%.

Simple, yet brilliant.

 

[colton]

Holy ****!

So here we were thinking BYU was getting in excess of $1 million, possibly as much as $2 million per home game from ESPN.

WRONG.

Why do you believe the new source over the previous sources?

Actually, here's what was previously reported:
https://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/cougars/50203188-88/byu-holmoe-conference-espn.html.csp

estimates put it anywhere between $800,000 and $1.2 million per home game. Brown said a minimum of three BYU home games per year

So maybe the new source is just quoting the minimum. $1.2 million per game x 3 games = $3.6 million, which would then exactly match the "nearly $4 million per year" number from the new article. Of course, if additional games beyond the minimum are broadcasted by ESPN (as they are this year), then the number goes up from there.

But that's missing one of the major points... a critical piece of the deal was that BYUTV can broadcast (or rebroadcast) the games as well. So you'd have to somehow be able to put a dollar figure on that.

Plus, don't teams in conferences often have to share money from gate receipts? If so, then you'd have to figure that BYU is making a more on gate receipts now than they used to. Say 65,000 tickets at about $25/ticket, that's another $1.65 million per game that they don't have to share with anyone.

 

[leftyjace]

Why do you believe the new source over the previous sources?

Um... cuz it's ESPN. You know, the people who the contract is actually with.

But that's missing one of the major points... a critical piece of the deal was that BYUTV can broadcast (or rebroadcast) the games as well. So you'd have to somehow be able to put a dollar figure on that.

Very true. You are correct, sir. Except for the fact that BYUTV does not garner much advertising revenue... or so I've been told.

Plus, don't teams in conferences often have to share money from gate receipts? If so, then you'd have to figure that BYU is making a more on gate receipts now than they used to. Say 65,000 tickets at about $25/ticket, that's another $1.65 million per game that they don't have to share with anyone.

I have a hard time believing BYU is making more on gate receipts now than they used to. Especially given that they've had to resort to GroupOn deals to sell tickets.

 

[7StraightIsGreat]

Holy ****!

So here we were thinking BYU was getting in excess of $1 million, possibly as much as $2 million per home game from ESPN.

WRONG.



Source: https://espn.go.com/college-footbal...ence-divided-14th-football-member-sources-say

NOTICE THE SOURCE IS ESPN.

For those that have a hard time with math, $4 million / 6 home games = $667,000 per home game. And that's if we're generous and say that the "nearly $4 million a year" is close enough to round up.

Love it.

Looooooooove it!

Lefty, I like you, I really do. As a fellow Ute fan I am always interested to see your posts, but this one made me cringe. A lot.

As a Ute fan, it shouldn't matter what type of money BYU is earning from it's ESPN deal. Following it, posting on it, and trying to pick out flaws about it will only further the notion by some that Utah fans are still measuring themselves against BYU.

The best advice I can give you is just kick back, relax, don't worry about what kind of money BYU is getting for TV rights, and enjoy the PAC 12 revenue that is about to be coming Utah's way. Utah is in an AMAZING position to strengthen all of their athletic programs in the coming years. Worrying about what your rival is pulling in is just silly.

Personally, I think the ESPN deal for BYU is great. Regardless of the exact $$$ that's being brought in, it's still better than being stuck on The Mountain.

 

[leftyjace]

Lefty, I like you, I really do. As a fellow Ute fan I am always interested to see your posts, but this one made me cringe. A lot.

As a Ute fan, it shouldn't matter what type of money BYU is earning from it's ESPN deal. Following it, posting on it, and trying to pick out flaws about it will only further the notion by some that Utah fans are still measuring themselves against BYU.

The best advice I can give you is just kick back, relax, don't worry about what kind of money BYU is getting for TV rights, and enjoy the PAC 12 revenue that is about to be coming Utah's way. Utah is in an AMAZING position to strengthen all of their athletic programs in the coming years. Worrying about what your rival is pulling in is just silly.

Personally, I think the ESPN deal for BYU is great. Regardless of the exact $$$ that's being brought in, it's still better than being stuck on The Mountain.

You are right, of course.

I suppose it's simply that knee jerk reaction I make because BYU fans are always trying to get under our skin flaunting the ESPN deal because it's "sooooo good".

I shall attempt to take the higher road moving forward.

Thank you, sir. May I have another?

 

[UGLI baby]

Wat?

I'm ALL about kicking byu while they are down.

Does this make me obsessed with byu? No.

Does this make me a dick? Yes.

 

[7StraightIsGreat]

You are right, of course.

I suppose it's simply that knee jerk reaction I make because BYU fans are always trying to get under our skin flaunting the ESPN deal because it's "sooooo good".

I shall attempt to take the higher road moving forward.

Thank you, sir. May I have another?

Don't get me wrong, I see where you're coming from.

I just think the only figures we should be interested in are 8 out of the last 11.

 

[leftyjace]

I thought I was going to possibly be able to go down to the AZ State game...

Not going to happen now. SAD FACE.

 

[colton]

Very true. You are correct, sir. Except for the fact that BYUTV does not garner much advertising revenue... or so I've been told.

I don't know. But advertising revenue is largely irrelevant. The point of putting football games on BYUTV is to (a) make it available for BYU fans (who then may well contribute to the university, if you want to talk monetary value), and (b) to draw people into BYUTV who might not otherwise go there (and give those people some exposure to the church).

I have a hard time believing BYU is making more on gate receipts now than they used to. Especially given that they've had to resort to GroupOn deals to sell tickets.

The only GroupOn deal I saw was for a "Cosmo Club" thing for kids, or something like that. Here's what Wikipedia says about their attendance this season so far:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_BYU_Cougars_football_team

August 30 8:15 PM Washington State LaVell Edwards Stadium • Provo, UT 57,045
September 8 1:00 PM Weber State LaVell Edwards Stadium • Provo, UT 60,314
September 15 8:00 PM at Utah Rice-Eccles Stadium • Salt Lake City, UT 45,653

(One of these numbers is not like the others. Hmm...)

Tickets for the next home game are selling for $25 - $85. Link. Looks like my $1.65 million estimate may have been low.