We need to legalize marijuana. Situation in Millcreek

[bordelais7]

I will begin to take Thriller seriously if he also advocates the criminalization of alcohol. Being in favor of banning soda and cheeseburgers wouldn't hurt either. THEN the arguments would at least be consistent. Government is the only one capable of protecting us from ourselves.

Also, I was lying about taking him seriously.

 

[Nate505]

I'm very pro-legalization, but I agree with CONAN 100%. Both sides need to admit what pot really is. Pot can be very damaging to a person, especially if that person needs to have a good deal of ambition to accomplish their goals. If you're already set, fine. Smoke your brains out when you get home from work and watch silly **** on TV. But for those up-and-comers out there, you should avoid pot like the plague. It can completely kill your dreams.

He has a point.

Now if only the booze drinkers could admit to what stuff like beer and wine really is. Beer can be very damaging to a person, especially if that person needs a good deal of motor skills, coordination or self control to accomplish their goals. If you're already good in life, fine. Drink your brains out when you get home and rant about various things (just avoid beating your wife). But for those just starting out in life, you should avoid beer like the plague. It can completely ruin your life.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Steer clear of cake pops. They have ruined my life.

 

[Stoked]

Steer clear of cake pops. They have ruined my life.

Well cake pops are not meant to be used in that way...come on man! Use some common sense!

 

[Nate505]

Steer clear of cake pops. They have ruined my life.

I propose we make them illegal and declare a war on them.

 

[Stoked]

I propose we make them illegal and declare a war on them.

I see where you are going and I agree with you on the specific case of marijuana. The harder drugs should remain illegal and attempts at prevention should be continued to be made.

 

[GVC]

The harder drugs should remain illegal and attempts at prevention should be continued to be made.

Ah ha! This is, perhaps, where a rational policy discussion could begin. Is throwing people in prison the best way to prevent/reduce drug abuse?

Unfortunately, the authoritarian mind (read: The Thriller) is unable to consider different policy approaches and their respective (potential or expected) outcomes. For this type, if something is bad in any way whatsoever, any punishment for doing that bad thing is justified.

 

[Gameface]

He has a point.

Now if only the booze drinkers could admit to what stuff like beer and wine really is. Beer can be very damaging to a person, especially if that person needs a good deal of motor skills, coordination or self control to accomplish their goals. If you're already good in life, fine. Drink your brains out when you get home and rant about various things (just avoid beating your wife). But for those just starting out in life, you should avoid beer like the plague. It can completely ruin your life.

But I think most drinkers realize how debilitating alcohol is, how addictive it is and how socially unacceptable it is to be drunk in any sort of professional setting.

 

[Scat]

Steer clear of cake pops. They have ruined my life.

Do you snort, smoke, inject or use in suppository form?

 

[Stoked]

Ah ha! This is, perhaps, where a rational policy discussion could begin. Is throwing people in prison the best way to prevent drug abuse?

Unfortunately, the authoritarian mind (read: The Thriller) is unable to consider different policy approaches and their respective (potential or expected) outcomes. For this type, if something is bad, in any way whatsoever, any punishment for doing that bad thing is justified. Patently unAmerican.

Well that would depend. Was this some jackass selling heroin to highschool kids? In that case yeah throw them away. Or is it some business person looking for an extra fun weekend? Perhaps, fines, community service and public disclosure of their behaviour would work. Make them hold a sign on a busy intersection near their home that explains what they did.

Edit: In short I do not think a one size fits all approach is adequate.

 

[UGLI baby]

Steer clear of cake pops. They have ruined my innernet street cred.

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[GVC]

Well that would depend. Was this some jackass selling heroin to highschool kids? In that case yeah throw them away.

I think almost everyone would agree. Hell, I'd agree that people selling weed to minors should be thrown away as well. What policies best keep drugs out of the hands of minors?

Unfortunately, the vast majority (nearly 90% if memory serves) of marijuana-related arrests are for simple possession. Imagine if the resources devoted to arresting and prosecuting these people were instead devoted to catching dealers who prey on kids.

 

[Stoked]

I think almost everyone would agree. Hell, I'd agree that people selling weed to minors should be thrown away as well. What policies best keep drugs out of the hands of minors?

Unfortunately, the vast majority (nearly 90% if memory serves) of marijuana-related arrests are for simple possession. Imagine if the resources devoted to arresting and prosecuting these people were instead devoted to catching dealers who prey on kids.

Oh I agree. I have previosuly stated, numerous times, that I think pot should be legal.

One of the best ways to combat drug use amoung minors is to keep them busy in something that they like. For example my daughters are going to be involved in something. Cheer, basketball, science club, chess, drama club, student council...I do not care what they choose to pursue as long as it is something.

Parental involvement in something the child enjoys and pursues (not parental control but involvement) would change almost any worrisome childhood problem. Be it drugs, grades, pregnancy, drinking, bullying...

 

[Stoked]

I also am highly for having police involvement and instruction at grade schools and up.

It sounds cliche but the youth are our greatest resource. Do not control everything they do but get them involved and invested in their community.

 

[TroutBum]

I'm very pro-legalization, but I agree with CONAN 100%. Both sides need to admit what pot really is. Pot can be very damaging to a person, especially if that person needs to have a good deal of ambition to accomplish their goals. If you're already set, fine. Smoke your brains out when you get home from work and watch silly **** on TV. But for those up-and-comers out there, you should avoid pot like the plague. It can completely kill your dreams.

Yes and no. It will ultimately depend on the individual. I was 19 when I became a heavy pot smoker, and I smoked it all day every day for the next six years. In that time, I took an idea I had for a business and turned it into a career that, at its peak, paid me six figures. I've often felt like the stereotype weirdo that people make fun of, but it's true: The weed cleared my mind and gave me legitimate ambition and drive. It wasn't until I got married and stopped smoking that I started to suck ***. I've talked to my shrink about it and she's mentioned that THC works as a substitute for saratonin, which is the goo in your brain that either does or doesn't cause clinical depression. (that is the idiots definition, just go with it) It just so happened that it did wonders for me. I keep telling my wife that we'd both be a lot happier if I could just roast a fatty every once in a while... Frickin' Mormons.

 

[GVC]

Yes and no. It will ultimately depend on the individual. I was 19 when I became a heavy pot smoker, and I smoked it all day every day for the next six years. In that time, I took an idea I had for a business and turned it into a career that, at its peak, paid me six figures. I've often felt like the stereotype weirdo that people make fun of, but it's true: The weed cleared my mind and gave me legitimate ambition and drive. It wasn't until I got married and stopped smoking that I started to suck ***. I've talked to my shrink about it and she's mentioned that THC works as a substitute for saratonin, which is the goo in your brain that either does or doesn't cause clinical depression. (that is the idiots definition, just go with it) It just so happened that it did wonders for me. I keep telling my wife that we'd both be a lot happier if I could just roast a fatty every once in a while... Frickin' Mormons.

Yep. I still have plenty of issues, but I've been both happier and more productive since I started smoking.

 

[Dr. Jones]

I don't think it's the norm, but I can see it..

I don't smoke anymore, ever, but when I did, it made me much more stupider.
My wife, on the other hand, gets totally motivated, has tons of confidence, and gets **** done.

Not sure weed is a one-size-fits-all.

 

[One Brow]

Originally Posted by PKM
Steer clear of cake pops. They have ruined my life.

Do you snort, smoke, inject or use in suppository form?

I believe he bakes them into brownies.

 

[TroutBum]

I believe he bakes them into brownies.

And THEN shoves them up his butt.

 

[Gameface]

I don't think it's the norm, but I can see it..

I don't smoke anymore, ever, but when I did, it made me much more stupider.
My wife, on the other hand, gets totally motivated, has tons of confidence, and gets **** done.

Not sure weed is a one-size-fits-all.

I agree different people have completely different reactions to pot. If you try it and it makes you super paranoid or super lazy it's probably not the drug for you.